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Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-22-2022 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The New Guys
by Meredith Bagby
The never-before-told story of NASA's barrier-breaking Astronaut Class of 1978, which for the first time ever, included women, Blacks, and people of color — with exclusive cooperation of five astronauts. They rode NASA's cutting-edge shuttle, through its triumphs and tragedies (Challenger, Columbia), never losing sight of their conviction – space is for everyone.

In 1978, NASA changed the rules and hired its first class of civilian astronauts for its new Space Shuttle program. For the first time ever, the astronaut ranks were open to candidates beyond white male fighter pilots. In that historic class were the first American woman, the first African American, the first Jewish person, the first Asian, the first gay person, and the first mother.

The New Guys, the nickname their military predecessors gave them, tells their stories, for the first time ever, with exclusive access to three of the first American women in space, Kathy Sullivan, Anna Fisher, and Rhea Seddon, as well as the first African Americans, Guy Bluford and Fred Gregory.

Running in parallel to their story is the extraordinary four-decade-long history of the Shuttle itself. Conceived in the 1960s, the Space Shuttle was an ambitious new vehicle that would launch like a rocket, haul like a truck, and land like a plane. It would be NASA's most ambitious technical achievement. The New Guys pioneered the Shuttle program, which defined a generation of space travel, and helped build a dream of a new American century in space that brings all of the human race along.

  • Hardcover: ‎320 pages
  • William Morrow (October 11, 2022)
  • ISBN-10: ‎0063141973
  • ISBN-13: ‎978-0063141971

ColinBurgess
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posted 02-22-2022 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ColinBurgess   Click Here to Email ColinBurgess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As with most books on space exploration, I wish this one good sales and wide interest, but on behalf of my co-author David Shayler, I take umbrage at the "never before told" tagline attached to the blurb for this new book.

In 2020 our book, "NASA's First Space Shuttle Astronaut Selection: Redefining the Right Stuff" was published by Springer Books, and was a totally complete history of the selection of the Group 8 astronauts — the TFNG (I note the F word was removed from their title) — their backgrounds, recruitment, training, assignments and all their flights covered in great detail, and with the personal assistance of literally dozens of Group 8 astronauts and other NASA personnel. We even interviewed several of the unsuccessful candidates for Group 8 who did not make the final cut in order to get their stories as well. It is a very comprehensive and authoritative study of this amazing group of people and their achievements.

So on behalf of myself and David we welcome this new book, but not that "never before told" tag.

MCroft04
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posted 02-23-2022 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Colin, those were my exact thoughts when I read the blurb. Your and David's book is the "go to" for the 1978 astronaut group.

Henry Heatherbank
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posted 02-23-2022 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henry Heatherbank     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I must also say these were my exact thoughts too. Colin, I too have a copy of your book, which apart from being excellent, I found ito be so detailed and comprehensive, I’m wondering what else there is to say about the TFNG. Plus I think the title of this new book detracts from credibility: in no sense was this group ever known/referred to as “The New Guys”. It has always been “TFNG”, with the “TF” variously changed friending on audience!!

That said, I am happy to suspend judgment, but will be looking for some pretty thorough book reviews before I buy.

Captain Apollo
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posted 02-23-2022 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Captain Apollo   Click Here to Email Captain Apollo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For the first time ever, the astronaut ranks were open to candidates beyond white male fighter pilots.
This is surely not true. Harrison Schmitt and other members of his selection were not fighter pilots.

Henry Heatherbank
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posted 02-18-2023 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henry Heatherbank     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, a year or so on, has anybody read this book to work out if it is sufficiently different from Colin’s (and Dave Shayler’s) excellent Springer Praxis book? Still really unsure whether to buy this one.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-18-2023 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This title was just released this month (delayed from October 2022) on Feb. 7. A few reviews/profiles:

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