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oly
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posted 05-03-2018 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oly   Click Here to Email oly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
During a recent discussion with some friends regarding iconic photos, the argument was raised that today, Bill Anders Apollo 8 Earthrise photo, and Neil Armstrong's Apollo 11 photo of Buzz Aldrin, are commonly listed in many sets of iconic shots.

I like to highlight the fact that both photos were taken in difficult circumstances, Apollo 8 shot hurriedly through the command module window, in zero-g conditions, with unplanned settings. And the Apollo 11 photo taken on the lunar surface, in harsh lighting conditions, with Armstrong dressed in a pressure suit, using a camera mounted to his chest, without the aid of a viewfinder.

Both photos mark iconic events for mankind, with the Apollo 8 photo capturing Earth viewed from another world for the first time, and the Apollo 11 photo capturing the first two men to step foot on another world.

Why these two photographs make many lists of iconic photos is easily understood. Online searches for sets of iconic images confirm that these two photographs make many collections. This discussion led to a question, what would be the 25 most iconic, space-related photographs, and why?

I would like to pose a similar question to this community. Which photos do you feel should make such a list, and why?

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posted 05-03-2018 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if there are 25 truly iconic space photos. There are certainly 25, if not more, photos that space enthusiasts would say are iconic, but among the general public these come to mind:
  • Ed White on EVA (S65-30433)
  • Buzz Aldrin flag salute (AS11-40-5874) - due to MTV use
  • Jim Irwin with LM and LRV (AS15-88-11866)
  • Apollo 17's Blue Marble (AS17-148-22727)
  • Bruce McCandless MMU EVA (S84-27562)
  • Dale Gardner "For Sale" sign (51A-104-049)

Tyler_Peterson
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posted 05-03-2018 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tyler_Peterson   Click Here to Email Tyler_Peterson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is certainly a thought provoking exercise, especially after I read Valerie Neal's recent book about the visual rhetoric of space travel. Here is my attempt at a list of 25.
  1. The photo of the Mercury Seven in their silver pressure suits (1960).
  2. Jim McDivitt's portrait of Ed White outside the Gemini IV spacecraft (1965).
  3. Bill Anders's Earthrise photo during Apollo 8 (1968).
  4. Neil Armstrong's portrait of Buzz Aldrin at the Sea of Tranquility during Apollo 11 (1969).
  5. Neil Armstrong's photo of Buzz Aldrin saluting flag at the Sea of Tranquility (1969).
  6. Buzz Aldrin's photo of his own bootprint at the Sea of Tranquility (1969).
  7. Dave Scott's portrait of Jim Irwin, the American flag, the Lunar Module, and Lunar Rover during Apollo 15 (1971).
  8. Charlie Duke's portrait of John Young performing the "jump salute" during Apollo 16 (1972).
  9. Gene Cernan's portrait of Jack Schmitt, the American flag, and the Earth during Apollo 17 (1972).
  10. "Blue Marble" photo during Apollo 17 (1972).
  11. Tom Stafford shaking hands with Alexei Leonov during Apollo-Soyuz (1975).
  12. The first photo of Mars taken by the Viking 2 lander after touchdown (1976).
  13. "Face on Mars" photo taken by Viking 1 orbiter (1976).
  14. Photo of Jupiter's Great Red Spot taken by Voyager 1 (1979)
  15. Launch of Space Shuttle Columbia on STS-1 with white External Tank (1981).
  16. Photo of Space Shuttle Challenger with robotic arm extended during STS-7 (1983).
  17. Hoot Gibson's photo of Bruce McCandless wearing the MMU backpack during STS-41B (1984).
  18. Dale Gardner holding "For Sale" sign during STS-51A (1984).
  19. Photo of smoke plumes following Challenger accident (1986).
  20. "Pale Blue Dot" photo taken by Voyager 1 spacecraft (1990).
  21. "Pillars of Creation" photo taken by Hubble Space Telescope (1995).
  22. Photo of Pathfinder rover on Mars (1997).
  23. Portrait of STS-107 crew aboard Columbia's middeck (2003).
  24. Tracy Caldwell Dyson next to the ISS Cupola (2010).
  25. Suni Williams appearing to touch the Sun during International Space Station EVA (2010).

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posted 05-03-2018 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a great list, Tyler. If we stick with 25, I would probably substitute 2 or 3, but I agree with most.

One picture I would definitely include is the picture of CSM "America" taken by Cernan or Schmitt in lunar orbit. The spacecraft is straddling the lunar horizon at an angle. To me, it sums up the spirit of Apollo. In 2012 I asked Gene Cernan to inscribe a copy with the words: "These were the days of Apollo" and rather than simply sign it "Gene Cernan, Apollo 17" he quite properly signed it "Gene Cernan, Apollos 10 and 17."

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posted 05-03-2018 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm shocked all the above are US pics.

At a minimum I'd add a picture of the R7 during the launch of Sputnik, a picture of Sputnik, the TV image of Gagarin during flight, a picture of Tereshkova in her spacesuit, and the TV picture of Leonov exiting the airlock.

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posted 05-03-2018 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Dixon   Click Here to Email Mike Dixon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, but for reticence of the Russians to open their photographic vaults. Much has been missed.

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posted 05-03-2018 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonnut   Click Here to Email moonnut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would also add the Apollo 13 damaged service module.

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posted 05-03-2018 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonnyed   Click Here to Email Jonnyed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about photo of Apollo 15 Fallen Astronauts memorial on the moon? (honoring both American and Soviet casualties).

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The Fallen Astronaut and Apollo 13 damaged service module are good examples of the distinction I was trying to express earlier. To us, both of those photos are iconic, but if you showed either to a random member of the public, I doubt they would have seen either before, let alone know what the photos show.

For the same reasons I would omit from Tyler's list the Apollo-Soyuz photo (no. 11) and his final two photos, despite how great they are.

The Soviet Union's (and later Russia's) decision to keep its photography locked away really hurt the long time legacy of their space program. The only Soviet-era photo I think might come close to being iconic would be of the pre-flight shot of Laika, but even that is questionable.

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posted 05-03-2018 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for edorr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Robert that there probably are not as many as 25 iconic photos, in the sense of images that the general public has etched in their consciousness. Certainly the ones he mentions in his first comment, but really not many more.

I think I might have the temerity to mention the photo of Pickering, van Allen and von Braun holding up a (model? backup? duplicate?) of Explorer I. It's reproduced pretty frequently, though I confess it may not be among the images the general public sees that often.

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posted 05-03-2018 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oly   Click Here to Email oly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tyler, you have struck an amazing list, some of which I had not considered, including the Voyager and Viking images, which deserve to be on such a list. I would include an Apollo 1 crew photo, probably of the crew suited up in front of the launch vehicle, and the command module – white room, post-fire, with depleted extinguishers. I think both these images identify a major point in space history. I would find it difficult to remove any shots from your list, which is why I posted this question.

It can sometimes be difficult to distinguish which images were captured as a photograph from images captured on film. Many people would recall the vision of Alan Shepard during the first manned Mercury launch, as he exited the van and looked up at the rocket, or of him seated inside the capsule during the flight. I believe both of these were captured on film. I am not saying such shots do not exist, just that many memorable scenes that come to mind of these events were on film.

I do not recall photos of Gagarin's flight, other than press or propaganda photos, like the image that appeared in newspapers following his flight. The film of Vostok 1, with Gargarin walking to the rocket, have become visions we identify with this event. There may be photographs of this event that have not become widely known, or I may just not be able to recall them.

There are other images that we may choose not to list, such as Vladimir Komarov's remains in an open casket. This may be due to cultural reasons, subject matter or simple respect. It may also be because this image was not released to the public for many years, keeping it from public association to this subject, or that we simply do not identify with the image. It may be reasoning toward images of Christa McAuliffe's parents, and other viewers reactions to the Challenger disaster, not making such lists.

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posted 05-05-2018 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pupnik     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd say another iconic photo, in the terms that it's known and recognizable to the public at large, is the photograph of the Star Trek cast in front of Enterprise.

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posted 05-05-2018 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wehaveliftoff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Clearly it lies upon your definition of "iconic." I agree omitting Yuri Gagarin, Svetlana Savitskaya, Valentina Tereshkova and Alexey Leonov should not be ignored.

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posted 05-06-2018 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oly   Click Here to Email oly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are correct, this question in subjective. My question intends for the word iconic to mean representational of, or related to spaceflight, including milestones, major events and classic image.

The question came up during a discussion regarding photography, and what constitutes an iconic image. Popular culture identifies "Afghan Girl" as possibly the most famous photo in history. A point I challenged, feeling that "Blue Marble" or Armstrong's reflection in Buzz Aldrin's visor are equally famous, readily identifiable and have established semiotics.

This led to the consideration of space related photography, and to me seeking collectSPACE member opinions on the subject.

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posted 05-06-2018 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shuttle Challenger 51-L explosion.

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posted 05-07-2018 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To me, for something to be iconic it has to have enough public recognition that say 1 out of 50 people could identify it. On that criteria, I'd say the iconic US based images would be something like:
  1. The photo of the Mercury Seven in their silver pressure suits (1960).
  2. Jim McDivitt's portrait of Ed White outside the Gemini IV spacecraft (1965).
  3. Bill Anders's Earthrise photo during Apollo 8 (1968).
  4. Neil Armstrong's portrait of Buzz Aldrin at the Sea of Tranquility during Apollo 11 (1969).
  5. Buzz Aldrin's photo of his own bootprint at the Sea of Tranquility (1969).
  6. "Blue Marble" photo during Apollo 17 (1972).
  7. Hoot Gibson's photo of Bruce McCandless wearing the MMU backpack during STS-41B (1984).
  8. Photo of smoke plumes following Challenger accident (1986).
  9. Photo of Pathfinder rover on Mars (1997).

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posted 05-12-2018 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oly   Click Here to Email oly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tr:
To me, for something to be iconic it has to have enough public recognition that say 1 out of 50 people could identify it.
Great list, thank you for contributing. I am not sure about the 1:50 limit, as I mentioned previously, this is subjective, each will have images that they identify as a space related image.

I am curious which images collectSPACE members, people interested and familiar with spaceflight, readily identify with. This collection has more than 20 images of Neil Armstrong that many could argue personify Armstrong as an astronaut without using a single shot of him on the lunar surface (yes there are some of him on the moon).

I showed the images, excluding the Apollo images, to a range of people who are not space enthusiasts, less than quarter could even identify Armstrong, and less could give an accurate estimation of what era the photos were taken. Hence why I raised the topic here.

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posted 05-26-2018 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jonnyed   Click Here to Email Jonnyed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my memory, another iconic photo (during the first live TV broadcast from space) is the shot of the Apollo 7 astronauts in the command module with the sign "Keep those cards and letters coming in, folks."

Probably doesn't meet the "broadly known in the public" test but still a photo that sharply defines a key moment of the age.

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