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dom
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posted 05-13-2014 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dom   Click Here to Email dom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cspg:
And the badly reproduced photos (gee, I have to check that!), if the original were of poor quality, not much you can do to make look great!
Yes, these are minor flaws in what is otherwise an important reference book. Just a pity we had to wait so long to get our hands on it...

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Yep, 40 years is a long time! LOL. And it feels like 40 years since I did my KS...

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Mine's arrived, unfortunately the postal service managed to put a large dent in the cover. Fantastic content though, very happy with it. Good job.

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posted 05-18-2014 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dom   Click Here to Email dom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although the book is a fantastic read for the techno-junkie when it comes to the N1 rocket I should point out a big mistake in the text. Scores of engineers DID NOT die in the launchpad explosion in July 1969!

I do vaguely remember a sensational report to that effect appearing during the Glasnost era but it has since been proved wrong - unless there is one last major secret of Soviet spaceflight left?

Anyway, having said that there is still much in it I didn't know myself. I wish I'd heard about Alexander Shliadinsky's efforts to find out about the still secret booster from 1980s Leningrad in time to use in 'Cold War Space Sleuths'. Great story!

PeterO
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I received my copy today. I was surprised to find that the bookplate was not hand signed by the authors, but is a cut-and-paste of their scanned signatures. Not being an autograph collector, it's not important to me, but I can see how someone who collects autographed books would be upset.

Otherwise it looks like an outstanding book, and well up to the production standards of Hagerty's Spaceship Handbook.

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Mine arrived today, and it was worth the wait! I can't wait to dive into it to learn more about the N-1.

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I just found my copy on the doorstep yesterday. My first reaction is "Cool". The fact that Sidiqi contributed the forward to the book and I assume read it might mean that there are still some secrets that are unknown to us — like how many (if any) technicians died in the second N-1 failure.

So far, this is by far the best book I have read on the subject. (And I have collected quite a few since the early 1970s!)

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posted 05-26-2014 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dom   Click Here to Email dom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Asif would be a little surprised to think that writing a foreward to the book somehow validates such a huge historical error...

Although I haven't spoken to him personally about this particular issue - I'll quote his own words from his definitive 'Challenge to Apollo': "Remarkably, no doubt because of the stringent safety precautions, there were no fatalities or injuries, although the physical devastation was phenomenal."

Don't get me wrong, Jack Hagerty and his team have done an brilliant job of detailing the technical aspects of the N1 rocket but some of their knowledge of Soviet spaceflight history is dated!

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Okay, "Challenge to Apollo" was written a long time ago, and since then many other secrets have come out and as the recent Springer-Praxis book "Soviet Space Sleuths" has stated that no one but Russians are allowed to visit there. I am wondering as one of the authors is a former engineer there?

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Well, I'm glad to see you referencing 'Cold War Space Sleuths' in your argument but you'll have to trust me on this one as I'm the editor of that particular book.

Apart from one sensational report that came out of Moscow in 1990 (I think) there is absolutely zero evidence that anyone died in the N1 explosion in July 1969.

As the Soviets have come clean about other, far more embarrassing, secrets I fail to see why they would keep something like that quiet. In fact, I'd guess Glushko's cronies would have loved to reveal that it had killed people as it would have justified their own vindictive decision to cancel the booster.


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