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Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 05-15-2013 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Came across some documentation for STS-61-K and STS-61-I, and I have one more (STS-61-L) whose cover I have to scan. I know there's documentation on 61J and 61M (the document lists it as 61M(T) and the seller claims that morphed into the STS-26R Return to Flight; I had never seen the 61M(T) designation before.)

Anyway, who else has similar documents? I've seen them for 61F and G, I would like to see one for 61H and 62A. They must exist somewhere - according to one of the distribution lists on the back of one of the FDFs, 600 copies were printed, so it's hard to believe they all got thrown out.

heng44
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posted 05-16-2013 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
STS-61M(T) was a 56-hour simulation of a Shuttle flight involving a TDRS-deployment by astronauts Coats, Blaha, Buchli, Fisher and Springer. It was held 27-30 April 1987, as part of the return to flight activities leading to STS-26. During the sim the crew faced more computer-simulated malfunctions than would occur in 10 actual Shuttle flights.

cspg
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posted 05-16-2013 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about the carrots?

heng44
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posted 05-16-2013 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An ongoing joke that crew trainers played on this crew involved carrots and their symbolic role as culinary rewards.

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 05-22-2013 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I found the NASA release that the simulation was to deploy a TDRS similar to the one for the Return to Flight, but not use the RTF crew. The next mission to deploy the TDRS after 51L was 61M, and I guess since it was a training exercise, that's why the nomenclature 61M(T).

Part of my confusion is that, apparently, NASA was still using the alphanumeric mission designation at least until September 1986, because there was a Flight Requirement Document issued with STS 61-M, and an earlier version, dated July, has 61M with a targeted launch date of July 15, 1987 and Discovery as the orbiter.

While I don't have these on hand, these clearly pertain to the Return to Flight and not the original 61M mission.

Anyway, I put up a write up of the 61L document. I've been debating as to whether or not to scan all pages, but I don't want someone to just be able to grab them if they're doing research, or make facsimile copies.

I put in a bid for the 61J documents.

Greggy_D
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posted 05-23-2013 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Greggy_D   Click Here to Email Greggy_D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I asked Bob Springer where the crew slept during the 61M(T) test. I was thinking maybe upright in their seats on flat on the floor in sleep restraints, since they would want the test to reflect actual in-flight conditions. He replied, "Nah, they brought in Army cots for us."

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 05-23-2013 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From JSC release 87-020: "Flight controllers will support the simulation around-the-clock in MCC, but the flight crew will not remain in the SMS during sleep periods."

Apparently they did the same thing when it came time for the 26R crew to do the same type of simulation.

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