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Author Topic:   Negative Return: The Space Shuttle Photography of James Brown (Apple iOS iBook)
garymilgrom
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posted 04-17-2013 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jimmy Brown and I are pleased to announce this iBook containing over 100 of Jimmy's superb space shuttle photos. Viewers will be taken behind the scenes to see rare footage of the shuttle in the VAB, on the launch pad, setting up remote cameras, KSC wildlife and security procedures, launches and landings as well as other topics of interest.

Containing special audio features of Jimmy describing the background to the photo, as well as a full screen slide show and launch video, Negative Return is expected to be published in early summer of this year in iOS and PDF formats. Hardcover editions are also being considered.

Watch for Negative Return approximately June 1, 2013. Cover art below. Thank you.

Negative Return Cover iBook 400px

  • Digital Book in iOS and PDF Formats
  • Published by Gary Milgrom
  • ISBN 10: 0-9890487-1-3
  • ISBN 13: 978-0-9890487-1-2

413 is in
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posted 04-19-2013 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 413 is in   Click Here to Email 413 is in     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent news! I'm looking forward to this one.

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posted 04-20-2013 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jimmy's photography is top drawer so I am sure the book will be a "must have" for any space enthusiast.

Put me down for a hardcover copy and please keep us posted Gary.

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posted 04-20-2013 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rick Mulheirn:
Put me down for a hardcover copy and please keep us posted Gary.

Same here!

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posted 04-20-2013 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thirded...

Joel Katzowitz
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posted 04-23-2013 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joel Katzowitz   Click Here to Email Joel Katzowitz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I could be considered biased as both Jimmy and Gary are friends of mine. But, I recently spent an afternoon with them as they worked together on the book and I can truthfully say Jimmy's images are breathtaking. Combine them with Gary's layout and interface skills and this publication can't miss.

They've already told me they won't give me a discount so I've started saving my pennies.

garymilgrom
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posted 05-16-2013 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This book is now available on iTunes. Click here to purchase the book or download a sample.

The price is $5.99 and a 15-page sample is available for free. Buy now! Buy often!

A PDF version that works on Android and PC's is available by writing to myself or sending $5.99 to gary (at) atlantapixel (dot) com by PayPal. The links to the PDF will be sent out starting early tomorrow, Friday May 17.

If you do purchase please review the book once you have read it. A copy of the online listing is below. Thank you.

NG 400

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posted 05-16-2013 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BMckay   Click Here to Email BMckay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone should buy it. I just did. Great job...

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Gary, Jimmy, Joel -- wow, what an AWESOME book. I really love the images, the quality of the product, and the integration of the audio clips with the images is just a brilliant idea! Well done. Everyone should run (not walk) and buy a copy.

GoesTo11
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posted 05-16-2013 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just purchased

James Brown
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posted 05-16-2013 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Brown   Click Here to Email James Brown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much guys for the wonderful words. Since its release this morning, one small error has been brought to our attention. It will be corrected shortly. I'm pretty excited about this. Gary has done a fantastic job putting everything together. I hope everyone gets a chance to see it. It's one of those things I always wanted to do, but never seemed to have the time to do it. It took Gary lighting a fire under my behind to get the ball rolling. Again, thanks for the very kind words. It means a lot.

garymilgrom
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posted 05-16-2013 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rich, what's your price to post your review on iTunes? That may help us sell more.

ALSO - PDF versions are 700 MB, about 7x the Apple compressed format. These have been rendered at above print resolution and are worth the download time. They will print beautifully if you can't wait for our hardcover version. A password is provided with each PDF - please keep these private.

Thank you very much.

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posted 05-17-2013 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeterO   Click Here to Email PeterO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This afternoon I got my weekly "iBookstore Alert" from Apple, and it features Negative Return. How cool is that?!

In the several years I've been receiving the alerts, it's the first time they've featured something I'm actually interested in

GoesTo11
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posted 05-17-2013 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I downloaded Negative Return this morning, and I have to say I see only one problem with it: I'm going to have great...difficulty...selecting just three or four images to blow up and frame I'm running out of wall space, guys!

Seriously, though...buy this book. Now. Fantastic work by Jimmy and Gary.

garymilgrom
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posted 05-18-2013 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a screen shot from iTunes featuring the book.

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Just leafed through my copy and the quality of the photos is really excellent. Jimmy has a great eye for detail and the photos that were selected for the book are beautiful. And Gary again did a great job on the layout.

I am glad to be able to add this to my collection. Highly recommended!

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posted 05-22-2013 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joel Katzowitz   Click Here to Email Joel Katzowitz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gary, I don't know what you offerred Rich for his fine review, but I'll take the same as I just left my stellar review on iTunes.

The book is a must have for anyone who is proud to be called a Spacegeek.

garymilgrom
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posted 07-22-2013 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm pleased to report this book has been updated to version 1.1. This version fixes some errors and typos, adds a high def video of the STS-135 launch and finally adds an explanation of the RTLS abort scenario and the meaning of the title Negative Return as applied to the shuttle (as many had asked).

If you purchased the book from iTunes the update is simple. First, open iBooks on your iPad and look for a number in the store icon indicating you have an update:

Update 1

Touch that button and you're taken to the store's update page. Touch update:

Update 2

The display changes back to your library and a progress bar shows the book being updated.

Update 3

Have patience as the HD video is a large file itself but the sharpness and quality is worth it! While the video does not play on the PDF versions of this book, if you purchased a PDF and want to update your file please send me a note. Thank you.

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posted 07-22-2013 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I look forward to buying the proper paper version.

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posted 07-22-2013 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jimmy (and Gary) --

Fantastic!!! I can't wait to order my book/paper version as I am very much looking forward to viewing all of the great space photography over the many years.

And I must say, my friend, it has been a pleasure in sharing with you many of the space shuttle events (though mostly while at the KSC news center), especially during shuttle launches and orbiter landings here on the Florida Space Coast.

Congratulations, Jimmy and Gary both, and I can't wait to see it!

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posted 07-22-2013 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JBoe   Click Here to Email JBoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jimmy and Gary, I too would love to get the hard-copy version, do you know when it will be available? I can't wait!

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posted 07-22-2013 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4allmankind   Click Here to Email 4allmankind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm in for a hard copy of the book! As long as its signed, that is . I've always been a great fan of Jimmy's work.

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posted 07-23-2013 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The following represents my personal thoughts and does not necessarily reflect Jimmy Brown's thoughts.

I'm surprised that years of effort by Jimmy and hundreds of hours of programming by myself have not resulted in a "proper version" of this book.

I hope people realize that a mass market art book retailing for $50 costs less than $5 to print. But a print on demand type of book, which is the technology needed to make a few copies, will cost Jimmy and myself nearly $50 each.

Despite Negative Return being seen by thousands of people on this and other sites, and despite wildly favorable reviews we've sold less than 40 copies to date. I simply cannot fathom why people who won't pay $5.99 will pay ten times that or more for a printed version. I understand the appeal of printed books and I have a large print library myself. But I bought most of those books years ago. We have more options now.

The images in this book are extremely high resolution. They look magnificent on a backlit tablet or computer screen, glowing with the light of ignition or launch. Even using the finest papers and inks they will not look this good in print. And you lose all the videos plus Jimmy's narration of what's going on behind the scenes.

So where does that leave us? I don't think it would be wise to invest the money required to make 10-20 hardcover versions. Given meager sales at $5.99 I think we'd sell none at $75. And that's a very small markup - in the retail world, items that cost $50 to manufacture usually sell for over $500.

How about this - if you want a printed version send me $100 by PayPal. If I get less than 10 responses (minimum order) by August 15 I will refund your money including any PayPal charges. If I get more than 10 responses I will proceed with getting these made. I expect the retail price to be $75 plus shipping. I will send you a printed copy and a refund of any overcharges within 90 days. If you live where it costs more than $25 to ship I'll ask you for the extra amount. Fair?

Thank you. Please use my email listed on this site for PayPal.

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posted 07-23-2013 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by garymilgrom:
I simply cannot fathom why people who won't pay $5.99 will pay ten times that or more for a printed version. I understand the appeal of printed books and I have a large print library myself. But I bought most of those books years ago. We have more options now.

Because it's limited to iTunes? And it's no fun reading anything on anything else but paper (I don't- yeah, I've got issues ) let alone admire someone's else art. I don't understand how people can actually read a comic book on a mobile phone...

And you're not buying books anymore?

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posted 07-23-2013 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please note we offer a PDF version which can be read on any platform or printed if you desire. We've had some great feedback from purchasers of the PDF about how good it looks on Android tablets and how well the prints from it look.

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posted 07-23-2013 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, but then how much would it cost me if I were to print the 100 photos? I seriously doubt it would be as little as $100.

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posted 07-23-2013 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JBoe   Click Here to Email JBoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I didn't realize the cost in putting this together! With that said, how can I get a pdf version? Thanks!

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quote:
Originally posted by garymilgrom:
Have patience as the HD video is a large file itself but the sharpness and quality is worth it! While the video does not play on the PDF versions of this book, if you purchased a PDF and want to update your file please send me a note. Thank you.

Gary, is it possible for purchasers of the PDF version (like me) to obtain the HD video?

garymilgrom
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posted 07-24-2013 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the interest.

A PDF version that works on any platform is available by writing to myself or sending $5.99 to gary (at) atlantapixel (dot) com by PayPal. You will receive a link and password in return.

A free sample of the PDF version can be had by clicking this link.

The HD movie is from NASA so is in the public domain. The 100 MB file from the book is available by clicking this link.

E-mail me if you'd like the original, 200+ MB file.

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quote:
Originally posted by Blackarrow:
I look forward to buying the proper paper version.

Indeed... but there should be at least a dozen takers!

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posted 07-26-2013 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Surely there must be at least a hundred of us who would buy a hard copy?

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Well it's difficult with printed versions... I have worked on several books and for a decent return versus good price for the customers, it looked like at least 100 to 500 books should be sold. Of course, we're all hobbyists and don't do it for the money.

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posted 08-01-2013 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blackarrow:
Surely there must be at least a hundred of us who would buy a hard copy?
Well, I have had zero replies to my offer above. We are trying to find a lower cost solution to a printed version. We hope to have news of this within 2 weeks.

garymilgrom
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posted 08-06-2013 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I now have pricing from a high quality local printer. Here are THE COSTS for printing a 12" x 9" softcover version of this book - there is no markup in these numbers.

10 books = $85.00 each
15 books = $70.00 each
20 books = $62.50 each

Note prices do not include shipping. I will take orders until the end of August. At that time if we have 10 or more orders I'll proceed with printing. If we don't reach that I'll refund everyone's money. Looking forward to hearing from the group. Thank you.

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posted 08-08-2013 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd like to order two.

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Hell, I'd like 2.

James Brown
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posted 08-12-2013 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Brown   Click Here to Email James Brown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
4 so far? The more we get, the cheaper the books will be.

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posted 08-12-2013 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want one (Two if need to get to 20)

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I'll take one, not only because I'm in one of the images, but because the book is amazing.

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I just wanted to thank Gary and James for producing such a spectacular photo gallery of the STS program featuring many up-close and personal shots of these majestic vehicles during processing, launch and landing etc.

They have given us through this project, the view vistas of these special vehicles that many of us would never even get close to taking with such clarity and precision. Added to that, the time that have personally taken, to take these photos and process them in an ebook or a hardcover version and then offer them to sale for us supporters and collectors of the space program at a low cost, this is an offer too good to pass on. So I encourage you all if you have not done so already, check out the preview and then purchase the e-book, PDF or show your support for a hardcover version.

For those like myself who have purchased a PDF version and would like a hardcover version, be aware that James has told me that there has only been about 8 serious en queries for a hardcover version since Gary's last post.

To encourage their efforts on this, I am the first one to actually pay a deposit to them for a hardcover version.I would ask that if you are serious that you would like a hardcover version, too, that you do the same. If we can get a few more hardcover orders to be placed soon, the price will be cheaper and you will have a lasting legacy of the STS program in your hands to enjoy and show your children and grandchildren what these shuttles now relegated to the museum sites, looked like in their prime serving the USA & nations of the world. Thank you again Gary and James!

Richard


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