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Moon Bound: Choosing and Preparing NASA's Lunar Astronauts
by Colin Burgess
Often lost in the shadow of the first group of astronauts for the Mercury missions, the second and third groups included the leading figures for NASA's activities for the following two decades. “Destination Moon” complements the author’s recently published work, “Selecting the Mercury Seven” (2011), extending the story of the men who helped to launch human spaceflight and broaden the American space program.

Although the initial 1959 group became known as the legendary pioneering Mercury astronauts, the astronauts of Groups 2 and 3 gave us many household names. Sixteen astronauts from both groups traveled to the Moon in Project Apollo, with several actually walking on the Moon, one of them being Neil Armstrong.

This book draws on interviews to tell the astronauts' personal stories and recreate the drama of that time. It describes the process by which they were selected as astronauts and explains how the criteria had changed since the first group. “Destination Moon” is divided into two parts, recounting the biographies relating to the nine astronauts from NASA’s Group 2 in the first part, and the fourteen finalists in Group 3 in the second part.

The stories of both selection groups are narrated through the experiences of four finalists with interesting backgrounds. One of these men is Al Rupp of the USAF who, as a West Point cadet, cheekily helped to steal the Navy mascot goat prior to the annual Army versus Navy game in 1953, thus achieving legendary status in the game’s history. Rupp was killed in a plane crash just two years after being named as a finalist for Group 3. The service career of naval aviator John Yamnicky was also very much the equal of other finalists, but he was killed on September 11, 2001, as a he was a passenger on hijacked Flight 77, which was flown into the Pentagon.

At the end of the work there are several chapters on how these candidates were prepped for their missions.

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posted 03-08-2012 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ColinBurgess   Click Here to Email ColinBurgess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was something of a natural after putting together the Mercury book that I would go beyond the first group of astronauts and relate the story of the selection of the second and third groups. It was quite a daunting task in the planning, however, as there were 32 finalists in the Mercury process, whereas there were (also) 32 finalists in the second group and 34 in the third. That meant a lot of people to locate, contact and convince them to share their stories.

I'm delighted to report that several months after beginning this new book project, I have now made contact with all the non-selected candidates from both groups, or their surviving family members, and I am down to writing the last few short biographies in cooperation with them. As with the first book, all the finalists will have their stories told and photographs featured in the book. And there are some pretty amazing stories among them.

I believe I might be able to bring that release date forward, as that is based on a manuscript submission of March 2013, and with the current rate of progress I should have the manuscript ready for sumission by around September this year. We shall see.

So save up your pennies; unfortunately Springer Books are not exactly low-priced publications.

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posted 03-08-2012 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RockyMnWay   Click Here to Email RockyMnWay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Colin! I look forward to this one. I really have enjoyed "Selecting the Mercury Seven" and can't wait for this one. Any plans in the works for another Farthest Reaches partnership with added bonus or signing?

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Steve Hankow and I discussed this when we met up last November to sign all those books and I believe this might happen. We will be putting our heads together in late May before I fly over to Spacefest IV, and if we decide to go ahead with a project similar to the Mercury (and Al Worden) book insert, it will be announced in plenty of time.

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posted 03-08-2012 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dog320     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mr. Burgess, I really look forward to this, even more than your Mercury book. If I may be so bold, there are a couple of particular questions I'd love to see answered if possible.

Firstly, for both the group two and group three selections, from the point of view of the successful candidates, did either or both selections have an applicant that all the others were 'sure' would be selected and somehow 'inexplicably' wasn't?

Secondly, in view of the tragic circumstances of his demise, and many subsequent on the record comments, a more detailed look at Mr. See's flying record would be interesting. Oh, and why was Mr. Gordon not selected in Group 2?

I know, I can't count! All sensitively handled of course, I know that I wouldn't want my flying/service records discussed in public.

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posted 03-09-2012 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ColinBurgess   Click Here to Email ColinBurgess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a little too early in the research process to properly answer most of your questions, as I am mostly putting together all the biographies at this time and haven't gone into too many specifics or stories surrounding their candidacy. I'll be asking some more probing questions once all of the profiles have been written and approved by the men or their surviving family members.

The reason for putting together all the biographies and gathering photographs of them from the outset is simply because they are no longer the proverbial spring chickens, and I feel it's important to get this done first, then ask questions about their astronaut candidacy and their fellow finalists once that has been completed.

One of the Group 3 finalists passed away last November before I was able to contact him (his son is now helping) which explains why I like to get the basic information down first.

There have been a few interesting asides about some of their fellow candidates, but these will be disclosed in the book. So far no one has hinted at anyone being a shoo-in for either group, or expressed surprised at anyone being excluded.

Insofar as Elliot See is concerned, don't expect to see too much about him in this book. With 64 finalists in total I am restricted in how much information I can insert. However I can direct you to an earlier book of mine, "Fallen Astronauts," in which a full chapter discusses the lives, service and flying careers, achievements and deaths of Elliot See and Charlie Bassett. With that information available in a book by the same publisher, there is little point in repeating See's story at length.

I haven't yet spoken to Dick Gordon about why he didn't make it the first time 'round, and had to wait for Group 3 selection. I know that several finalists bombed out because they simply hadn't achieved the high educational, flight and technical training required by NASA to that point in their careers. I will be asking several of the Group 2 and 3 astronauts at Spacefest IV in May/June for a few insights I can use in the book.

Sorry to have been so non-specific in my response, but there is still a long research path ahead of me at this stage of the endeavour.

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posted 03-09-2012 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dog320     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks very much, I didn't expect any information at this stage! I'd better chase up "Fallen Astronauts". Good luck again with the book.

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posted 07-04-2012 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ColinBurgess   Click Here to Email ColinBurgess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A progress report on this new book. It is now basically completed in manuscript form and will be sent off to the copyeditor, as arranged, in five weeks.

I'm delighted to say that I not only conducted interviews with several Group 2 and 3 astronauts (mostly at Spacefest IV - thank you Kim and Sally), but the non-selected finalists from both groups or their family members all gave me enthusiastic support and assistance, allowing me to complete their short biographies as well as supplying me with wonderful information about the selection process in which they were involved.

As the manuscript was originally contracted for submission in March next year, I will have to advise the new, earlier release date once it is known to me.

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posted 07-21-2012 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For European readers, the Amazon UK listing.

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The manuscript and photos for this book have now been shipped off for copyediting, and it should be released sometime early next year. I will advise when a publication date becomes available.

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Really looking forward to its publication Colin.

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I'm very pleased to report that the editing and indexing stages for this book are now at an end. My editor for this book, as with the earlier volume on the selection of the Mercury astronauts, was the fabulous David Harland, who did an amazing job on a difficult book. The page proofs are now going for final edit changes, and from there it will be shipped off to the printers, but probably not until sometime early in the New Year. I will give a release date as soon as it is known to me, but this will likely be sometime in the Spring.

Three more planned books are now in the pipeline, but I will have more details once they have been formally accepted for publication.

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quote:
Originally posted by dog320:
Oh, and why was Mr. Gordon not selected in Group 2?
I did indeed interview Dick Gordon at Spacefest IV as to why he didn't make it into Group 2 along with his mate Pete Conrad, and he answered with a lot of candour. When I sent him the draft I had put together based on the interview he said he had raised some personal demons he maybe should not have, but he nevertheless approved it with his full blessing.

Surprisingly, he was also hoping to become a member of the Mercury group in 1959, but was not called to the Pentagon briefing sessions due to a suspected medical ailment. So lots to anticipate!

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quote:
Originally posted by ColinBurgess:
... the fabulous David Harland

Definitely!

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I can't wait for this book Colin. Keep them coming.

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Due in October 2013, it was first moved to July and now it is March! Usually it's the other way round!

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Chris, that's what happens when an author works darned hard and submits the completed manuscript six months ahead of the due date.

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posted 02-07-2013 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for minipci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any chance of getting a signed copy?

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I'm trying to get something organised like last time with Steve Hankow at Farthest Reaches, where I will do a book signing on my way to or from Spacefest V, but so far he hasn't responded to my query. I'll chase him up again.

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Colin, I hope that for our sakes Steve does get a chance to respond. Meanwhile, I cannot wait to get the book and read it. My fingers are crossed for a hardcover edition.

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Yet another superb title Colin... I enjoyed reading "Australian Astronauts" and "Into that Silent Sea."

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Looking forward to another great book. Thanks Colin.

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I just pre-ordered mine from US amazon.com with a discount!

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Originally posted by ColinBurgess:
I'm trying to get something organised like last time with Steve Hankow at Farthest Reaches, where I will do a book signing on my way to or from Spacefest V, but so far he hasn't responded to my query. I'll chase him up again.

Thanks for the update. I hope you are able to arrange it.

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Following a message from Springer Books (New York) this morning, I'm obviously delighted to announce that this book has now been published and is available either directly from the publisher or through the usual retail sources.

Insofar as author-signed copies are concerned, Steve Hankow has been in touch with the publishers regarding a bulk order and we are working towards having a signing session while I'm in Los Angeles either before or after Spacefest V. More details will be announced a little later.

As a footnote, Michael Cassutt wrote the foreword to the book and as we will both be attending Spacefest V will happily sign copies.

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Colin, congratulations on the publishing of your latest contribution to space history. It is important to get the stories of these individuals before they pass away.

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Amazon now lists this new book as "In Stock."

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I just received a copy from Springer, and it looks good.

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Yesterday I received my first copies of the book and it really is a very nice, smart-looking presentation. Again, many thanks to everyone at collectSPACE who assisted in so many ways with making this book a reality.

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posted 03-26-2013 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ColinBurgess   Click Here to Email ColinBurgess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those of you wanting a signed copy of "Moon Bound" who can't make it to Spacefest V, Steve Hankow has now confirmed he will be ordering an initial batch of 50 copies for Farthest Reaches, which I will be signing when I'm in Los Angeles ahead of flying to Tucson.

If you would like a signed copy of the book, please contact Steve through Farthest Reaches to place your order. As well, if you would like your copy/copies personally inscribed beyond my standard "Ad Astra," please give Steve the details and he'll keep these requests handy for when I'm signing. He will then begin to mail them out. I know that a lot of the NASA Group 2 and 3 candidates or their family members will be placing orders, so those 50 copies may go fairly quickly.

If Steve does order further copies it may be some time before I can get back to LA to sign them, so make sure you get in nice and quick.

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I am very excited to be handling this book for Colin. It's the perfect companion to his "Selecting the Mercury Seven" book which we still have in stock with the special hand signed insert.

Pre-orders are being taken at this time.

Books must be paid in full at time of your order. Shipping will depend upon your location i.e. US or overseas. Should the demand exceed the supply, more books may be available for in time for Colin's signing visit, but at this moment I am only guaranteeing 50 copies so if interested, don't delay. Thanks to all for your continued support.

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I sent an email. Thank you Steve and Colin! I am really looking forward to this book.

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It looks like I'm going to have one of the rare unsigned copies!

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David: I'll see if I can fix that little problem in September!

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As mentioned in Steve's post above, signed copies of "Moon Bound" can be pre-ordered from Farthest Reaches. Steve has now placed information on the book - along with a photo of the cover - on his website, so do check it out, as numbers are limited and already several of the unsuccessful Group 2 and 3 candidates or their families have pre-ordered several copies. When they're gone, they're gone.

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I'm glad to receive my copy of "Moon Bound". It is a very interesting book. I know that Colin is signing a limited amount for Farthest Reaches - since I'm listed in the acknowledgements, I'll be more than happy to sign your copy, too. Gold paint pen is extra

Seriously, I really like the behind the scenes information - and am finally glad that the Walt Cunningham #14 story is finally out. Even funnier when Walt tells it.

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Subsequent to the release of "Moon Bound" I've had a number of personal enquiries asking about obtaining a signed copy of the book. Unfortunately I don't have access to copies of the book down here in Australia, and the cost of mailing books from here is hideously expensive these days, so I do ask that anyone who would like a signed copy of the book (apart from those I'll be seeing at Spacefest V) if they could please contact Steve Hankow at Farthest Reaches, as this is the best way to do it.

I will be signing 50 copies for Steve (perhaps more, depending on demand) when I pass through Los Angeles in about four weeks on my way to Tucson for Spacefest. I know that several of the Group 2 and 3 finalists and/or their family members are ordering signed copies from Steve, so it's definitely a case of first in, first served.

Please don't leave it too late to place your order, as I may not be in the States again for quite some time. And I'll repeat that if you want a personal inscription just let Steve know and he'll have these handy when I'm doing the bulk signing.

Thank you once again for your support.

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Have placed my order to Steve and really looking forward to receiving it after its been signed. If its as good as 'Selecting the Mercury Seven' I will be well pleased.

Incidently, when I attended Al Worden's talk earlier this year he signed a photo for me as I explained I had already obtained from Steve at Farthest Reaches his 'Falling to Earth' autobiography which he had already signed. He replied in that case I had got a very special first edition. That goes for both of Colin's books as well.

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Thank you, kind sir. I agree that Steve did a terrific job with "Falling to Earth," and the signed bookmark insert was an exceptionally great piece of associated memorabilia for the collector. He likewise did a brilliant job with the insert for "Selecting the Mercury Seven" signed by seven of the Mercury finalists.

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A quick reminder that I will be flying over to the States next week in order to attend Spacefest V, and during my two-day stopover in LA I will be meeting up with Steve Hankow from Farthest Reaches in order to sign his batch of copies of "Moon Bound." Don't forget that if you would like to have your copies inscribed in any way, just let Steve know and he'll pass all of these requests along to me when we get together.

All the ordering details are above, but please be aware that I may not be in the U.S. again for some time, so this is your best immediate chance to get a signed copy - unless of course you are attending Spacefest.


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