Posts: 16973 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted June 23, 2009 01:43 AM
I tell a story about my time on the Moon now, The sky was black even though the sun shined on, The moonwalk was such a trip -- it's so fine, When you're walking in the lunar dust.
It took us four days riding in a rocket, To set foot for the very first time, I'm going to tell you about the meaning of it all, We came in peace for all mankind.
Buzz Aldrin will appear on NBC's Today Show on Tuesday, June 23 to discuss his new memoirs, "Magnificent Desolation: The Long Journey Home From The Moon" and debut his behind-the-scenes video for "Rocket Experience", recorded for Funny or Die.
Aldrin's rap, which is now available as an mp3 through iTunes, was composed with the help of rapper Snoop Dogg, according to a New York Times' interview with the moonwalker.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 16973 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
Apologies to American Idol's Randy Jackson, but yo, dawg, check it! MC Buzz is out of this world and in the house. And, admittedly, just a little bit pitchy.
Astronaut Buzz Aldrin, 79, who has had his share of rendezvous with pop culture, launches three projects today, including a rap video that features Snoop Dogg, Soulja Boy and Quincy Jones. What can the real Buzz Lightyear be thinking?
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 16973 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
Posts: 16973 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted June 23, 2009 09:19 AM
Lisa Cannon, Aldrin's stepdaughter, back-up singer and rap scribe, posted a comment to the song's iTunes page:
I had a lot of fun writing this song for Buzz -- and he did a great job recording it, with the help of some serious rappers. Buzz hopes all of you will ride on a rocket someday to experience space. Remember a portion of the proceeds goes to the nonprofit Sharespace Foundation, and to benefit these charities: National Space Society, Planetary Society, and Astronaut Scholarship Foundation.
AJ Member
Posts: 155 From: Plattsburgh, NY, United States Registered: Feb 2009
posted June 23, 2009 11:04 AM
Funny idea, but honestly annoying to watch.
Jay Member
Posts: 69 From: Bloomington, Illinois, USA Registered: May 2005
posted June 23, 2009 11:59 AM
Actually pretty entertaining... and kudos for using quality footage and images!
Fra Mauro Member
Posts: 385 From: Maspeth, NY Registered: Jul 2002
posted June 23, 2009 01:36 PM
I'm in shock... why wasn't Neil Armstrong singing along too? Is Buzz becoming the next William (I put pride in my back pocket years ago) Shatner?
Paul23 Member
Posts: 264 From: UK Registered: Apr 2008
posted June 23, 2009 01:49 PM
I couldn't even watch all the way through that, it's made me feel a bit sick to be honest. It was worse than the Anfield Rap! (Probably a Brits only reference that one!)
E2M Lem Man Member
Posts: 626 From: Los Angeles CA. USA Registered: Jan 2005
posted June 23, 2009 01:54 PM
Aw, come on, tt was great to see Buzz rap!
This is a new arena for our hero and he is approaching the youth on new grounds that many Apollo-era cannot fathom. But neither could the 50's era be understood by the 20's era either.
Buzz, you go dog!
Leon Ford Member
Posts: 256 From: Shreveport, LA, United States Registered: Nov 1999
posted June 23, 2009 02:17 PM
Why do this? Very sad.
Joaquin Berndes Member
Posts: 26 From: Culver City, CA Registered: Dec 2004
posted June 23, 2009 02:22 PM
Okay, I've held back long enough. But with all due respect...
I am so tired of seeing Buzz Aldrin at every event. You would think he was the only man who walked on the moon! Why does he go out of his way to be in the spotlight?
Yes, you were the second man to walk on the moon! Yes, you flew on Apollo 11! No more books, no more dolls, no more Disney characters... please!
It's pathetic! You are famous! Some of the most famous pictures in history are of you! Neil Armstrong was the first. You will not be forgotten as the second, please let it go and get over it!
There are other moonwalkers who are more interesting and deserve the honor and credit also and should have their own line of dolls and books. These men are comfortable and secure with their legacy.
Am I the only one who feels this way? Apollo 11 was a three man mission... and the other members may not want to be in the spotlight so much, but I wish the media would go after other moonwalkers to license their name and likeness... I've had it with Buzz.
Frederic Janik Member
Posts: 273 From: Helsinki, Finland Registered: Jul 2000
posted June 23, 2009 02:34 PM
I don't have any problem with that - he seems to be having a good time, and if he can do it, why not?
I don't believe it has anything to do with being the second, you're reading too much into this.
And it's nice to have some active moonwalkers today, it would be boring if they were all retired from the media.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 16973 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted June 23, 2009 02:44 PM
No one is stopping other astronauts from pursuing similar activities. Jim Lovell and Sally Ride appeared alongside Aldrin in a recent ad campaign, for example.
Why do this and the other endorsement tie-ins? The off-the-cuff response would be "for the money", though in this and many other cases, the funds are donated to charities (although as Aldrin explains in his new memoir, the commercial activities originally provided a source of income when no other source was available).
Aldrin has a driving passion for advancing the future of space exploration and travel. He reaches out to any audience that will listen to his message. As legacies go, Aldrin as the outspoken space advocate is as positive an activity as one could hope from a former moonwalker.
Personally, I would much rather a world where a moonwalker was constantly being seen then a world where they were absent from all but the expected events (e.g. mission anniversaries, launches, etc.). Aldrin's celebrity has done more to push us in the direction of the Moon and on Mars than anyone else I could name.
And for the record, Aldrin did not name Buzz Lightyear. As John Lasseter recounted during our interview...
"We were sitting around trying to figure out his name," recalled Lasseter, "and we were not having much luck. I said, 'Well, what about astronaut names?' So without question, the coolest astronaut name is Buzz Aldrin. And then we started talking about space terms, rattling off all these space terms, looking stuff up, and all of sudden the suggestion of lightyear came up, as it was a measure of distance in space. We all looked at each other and said, 'Buzz, Lightyear'. It was like, 'Done! We got it, that's it!'"
divemaster Member
Posts: 895 From: ridgefield, ct Registered: May 2002
posted June 23, 2009 02:47 PM
Some things are just wrong.
However, I can just HEAR Wally's response in my head.
Joaquin Berndes Member
Posts: 26 From: Culver City, CA Registered: Dec 2004
posted June 23, 2009 02:49 PM
He seems to be going out of his way to leave his mark as the second man on the Moon and be seen everywhere. The 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th moonwalkers are satisfied with their place in history. It seems Buzz Aldrin is going out of his way to be known as the second man to walk on the Moon.
How about an Alan Bean doll? Or a Gene Cernan children's book? Or a John Young doll?
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 16973 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted June 23, 2009 02:58 PM
If you are going to rant, please do your research. There was an Alan Bean action figure (along with Pete Conrad and Charlie Duke figures, packaged separately and together with Mighty Morphin Power Rangers).
Gene Cernan hasn't written a children's book, though nothing is stopping him from doing so as Alan Bean and Sally Ride and Bill Pogue have done.
Just because Aldrin has done it doesn't mean others cannot or have not. This isn't about who was first, second, third or twelfth: it is about who is willing to take part in the promotion.
Paul23 Member
Posts: 264 From: UK Registered: Apr 2008
posted June 23, 2009 02:58 PM
I'm glad someone like Buzz makes himself so available through signing events, books, documentaries etc. Even amongst the moon landing missions Apollo 11 was something unique and given that Neil and Mike are not the easiest to get access to I am very thankful that Buzz is someone that it is possible to meet and to understand the man behind the public face.
But please Buzz no more rapping (or for that matter swinging, jiving, scatting, crooning, crimping, beat boxing or even Shatner-esque spoken word meanderings)!
Joaquin Berndes Member
Posts: 26 From: Culver City, CA Registered: Dec 2004
posted June 23, 2009 03:07 PM
I didn't say Aldrin named Buzz Lightyear... but it should of been Neil Lightyear, or Apollo Lightyear!
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 16973 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted June 23, 2009 03:13 PM
Then your beef isn't with Aldrin; it is with Pixar. Take it up with them...
Joaquin Berndes Member
Posts: 26 From: Culver City, CA Registered: Dec 2004
posted June 23, 2009 03:20 PM
He is not the spokesman for the space race or Apollo, or future space travels.
posted June 23, 2009 03:35 PM
I am all for anything that will help gain attention to the space program. If it takes Buzz doing rap that is fine.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 16973 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted June 23, 2009 03:38 PM
quote:Originally posted by Joaquin Berndes: He is not the spokesman for the space race or Apollo, or future space travels.
In fact, Aldrin was appointed a spokesman for future space travels, if by that you mean a spacefaring civilization. For many years, Aldrin served as the chairman of the National Space Society, an organization that he still supports (including donating funds from this song toward), which made him an official spokesman for the future of space exploration. (Now he's a spokesman emeritus.)
medaris Member
Posts: 157 From: United Kingdom Registered: Mar 2007
posted June 23, 2009 04:02 PM
I wasn't too taken with the rap, but I don't object to Buzz's right to do it.
For my money, it's a buyer's market. No one has to buy Buzz products. While I suspect he takes up a bit of the strain from the limited / unaffordable Armstrong items, I like the Buzz items I own in their own right. I'm pleased to have him in my collection - although I won't be adding the rap track to my personal collection...
Joaquin Berndes Member
Posts: 26 From: Culver City, CA Registered: Dec 2004
posted June 23, 2009 04:10 PM
All I'm saying is, that I think other people as well as I, may be tired of seeing him associated with so many "space" things... he is not the only moonwalker but everyone seems to think whenever there is a "moon" thing to promote or sell "Hey, let's get Buzz Aldrin! ...he'll do anything!". It's kinda like the Titanic frenzy a few years back. Everything was Titanic....everything is Buzz! Maybe it is just me?
gliderpilotuk Member
Posts: 2120 From: London, UK Registered: Feb 2002
posted June 23, 2009 04:23 PM
Great choice of partner in Snoop Dog: banned from entering Australia; refused a visa by the UK; banned for life from British Airways...substance abuse, guns, violent disorder...perfect role model, just perfect.
JPSastro Member
Posts: 74 From: Tucson, Arizona Registered: Jan 2009
posted June 23, 2009 04:29 PM
I agree with Joaquin on his opinion on Buzz.
Saw his appearance on the Today show this morning. He had to get a plug in for his website. I also am tired of "all things Buzz".
I agree he is an accomplished individual. But the rap song? Cute, but why? Egos are egos.
My opinion is further established after reading "Apollo Missions: The Unsung Heroes" and the chapter on Richard Underwood, NASA Chief of Photography.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 16973 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted June 23, 2009 04:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by JPSastro: But the rap song? Cute, but why?
The idea, as alluded to in USA Today, was apparently Lisa Cannon's, who as noted earlier is Aldrin's stepdaughter, a former professional singer and the person who wrote the rap.
"I'm not too good at carrying a tune, but I do have rhythm," says Aldrin, who got the idea from a family member who felt the genre would have a broad reach. "I want kids interested in space. It's their future."
The site behind the videos, Funny or Die, founded by Will Ferrell and Adam McKay's production company, has a large following and a reputation for showing celebrities doing things they normally wouldn't.
Rick Mulheirn Member
Posts: 1325 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
posted June 23, 2009 05:27 PM
Take it for what it is guys; a bit of fun in aid of a good cause.
Classic "Dad dancing" from Buzz! I'm just pleased to see Buzz does not always take himself so seriously...
MCroft04 Member
Posts: 748 From: Smithfield, Me, USA Registered: Mar 2005
posted June 23, 2009 05:29 PM
If you haven't noticed, all of the astronauts are different, with their own personalities. I like John Young, but if all astronauts were like him it would get pretty boring. Rap isn't my kind of music, but I respect Buzz for stepping out and doing something different. He's 79 years old for crying out loud; let him have some fun without criticism!
AJ Member
Posts: 155 From: Plattsburgh, NY, United States Registered: Feb 2009
posted June 23, 2009 07:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by Joaquin Berndes: How about an Alan Bean doll?
I would totally buy an Alan Bean doll! With two accessory sets: paints and brushes, and a geology hammer and tv camera.
I may not like the rap and I agree that Buzz is a cool guy and does a great job at being an ambassador for space, but I think to many people, and at certain events, he comes across not as an ambassador, or a guy having fun, but rather a guy cashing in. Some people may not agree with that, but that is a valid reaction that I've encountered in a number of people. I have a certain amount of sympathy and as well as affection for Buzz and I'm looking forward to seeing him at NASM in July, but I don't have too many illusions about him or other astronauts at this point.
LCDR Scott Schneeweis Member
Posts: 1572 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona Registered: Nov 1999
posted June 23, 2009 07:26 PM
quote:Originally posted by gliderpilotuk: ...perfect role model, just perfect.
posted June 23, 2009 07:30 PM
That is the most disturbing thing I have ever seen/heard in my life.
Fra Mauro Member
Posts: 385 From: Maspeth, NY Registered: Jul 2002
posted June 23, 2009 10:41 PM
Buzz certainly has the right to have some fun or help charities in any way he wishes. And people here are right, he does a lot to push space exploration, certainly more than Neil Armstrong does. However, I think this rap song was a bit undiginified, and I am glad in this instance that he was not the first man on the moon.
posted June 24, 2009 04:28 AM
Uh, well, I would love to hear what Mike Collins has to say about this.
I have always thought that the lure of exploration in itself would lure youngsters into spaceflight, but obviously we need Snoop Dogg to help us get them interested.
Anyway, I do honor Aldrin's efforts as the earnings will go to a variety of good causes like the ASF.
garymilgrom Member
Posts: 481 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: Feb 2007
posted June 24, 2009 06:53 AM
I started watched this thinking much like others... oh dear, what is he doing? But I wound up admiring Buzz's energy, ability and attitude to this opportunity. Buzz is certainly his own man, but he is reaching out every way he (or his publicist) can think of to other people, trying to stimulate interest in space. Many of us get satisfaction from similar outreaches.
Go Buzz!
Max Q Member
Posts: 240 From: Whyalla South Australia Registered: Mar 2007
posted June 24, 2009 07:10 AM
Hey I dont like the Tune so I will not be going out of my way to hear it again. But more power to Buzz I say.
jimsz Member
Posts: 263 From: Registered: Aug 2006
posted June 24, 2009 07:53 AM
An old guy performing a mediocre rap song is not going to build an interest in space exploration. Teens and kids are not morons just because they are young.
If Mr. Aldrin wishes to perform a rap song, that's up to him. If he wishes to appear on everything hawking his website, that's fine too. For whatever reason he seems to enjoy the spotlight and is willing to do what it takes to remain there. That's his choice.
Personally, that's not for me but if it works for Mr. Aldrin, again, that's his choice. Just please, no reality TV role because that's just about all that is left for the man to do.
garymilgrom Member
Posts: 481 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: Feb 2007
posted June 24, 2009 08:41 AM
Buzz is an outgoing person who speaks what's on his mind - period. Look at the wonderful help he's given to others with his honest writing on depression and alcoholism. His current focus is getting young people to look skyward - terrific! This wonderful country needs such help - our kids lag the world in maths and engeering; and a rap song might influence more kids than another lecture. **Might** is the operative word because we need to explore every avenue for stimulating kids on space.
I think Neil's private and Buzz's outgoing personalities are a great complement to each other. NASA could not have picked a better first landing team, and America is fortunate to have them both.
xlsteve Member
Posts: 150 From: Holbrook MA, USA Registered: Jul 2008
posted June 24, 2009 10:18 AM
I, too, thought the rap was a bit silly, and what some people have said about Buzz's over-exposure resonates with me (and I've posted about it on another thread here). But Buzz is not answerable to me or anyone else for doing what he feels he needs to, and I am certainly not in a position to evaluate his motives. I may not always agree with everything he does, but he has definitely earned the right for me to cut him some slack. I've come to the conclusion, as others have said here, "Buzz is Buzz." Robert's comment about Buzz's celebrity pushing us towards the Moon and Mars is a valid one. At the end of the day I think we're better for his being here and doing what he does, warts and all, than not.
Incidentally, I darn near bid on a set of the Bean, Conrad and Duke dolls mentioned by Robert. I was wondering why they didn't do a Dick Gordon doll to complete the crew. In fact the Alan Bean/Power Ranger figure is here if anyone is interested.