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Laura
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posted 09-14-2004 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laura   Click Here to Email Laura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apollo: The Race To The Moon is back in print!

Great news for those who have wanted a copy.

Sy Liebergot
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posted 09-15-2004 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sy Liebergot   Click Here to Email Sy Liebergot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just e-chatted with Charles Murray with whom I have become friendly over the years and congratulated him and wife on the re-launch of "Apollo." I've been after him for years to reprint this most definitive account of the Apollo Program. I heartily recommend it to y'all.

Sy Liebergot
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posted 09-15-2004 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rodina   Click Here to Email Rodina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't even realize it was out of print -- but given how few people seem to mention it around here, I guess that makes sense -- definitely one of the best books around, particularly its coverage of both the development of the Lunar Module and of the Apollo 13 business.

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posted 09-15-2004 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is indeed great news. I have been lucky enough to have a copy of this wonderful book on my shelves for many years, and I encourage everyone here to read it.

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posted 09-15-2004 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for star51L   Click Here to Email star51L     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great news!! I've about worn out the local library copy, so it will be great to have it on the shelf at home.

Larry McGlynn
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posted 09-17-2004 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just received my copy from Mr. Murray. I cannot wait to read it.

Sy Liebergot
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posted 09-17-2004 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sy Liebergot   Click Here to Email Sy Liebergot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Larry, now you can begin another quest to obtain signatures of all the 'stars' in the Murray/Cox book.

Larry McGlynn
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posted 09-17-2004 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sy, you are such a kidder! That project is off to a good start, because the book is signed by the authors.

Now I have to chase you down.

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posted 12-14-2007 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I decided to read "Apollo" again. Great idea and I agree it is a great book. But I do have a question about a comment they make on pages 337-38 regarding the Apollo 9 mission. They write that "Nine would be flown in a low earth orbit, which, for technical reasons involving both communications and navigation, was more difficult than trying to carry out the same activities on a real lunar mission". Can anyone shed any light on why performing the Apollo 9 mission objectives would be more difficult in LEO?

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posted 12-15-2007 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim   Click Here to Email Jim     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MCroft04:
Can anyone shed any light on why performing the Apollo 9 mission objectives would be more difficult in LEO?
Purely speculation on my part but the communication problem could have to do with the Earth's curvature and the fact that radio waves tend to travel in a straight line. As to the navigation problems, I'm not sure what that would be. Anyone else have any ideas?

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posted 12-16-2007 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carrying out realtime communications between the spacecraft and Mission Control would have been more difficult due to the gaps in the tracking station coverage. Even early shuttle flights had that problem until the TDRSS satellites were launched.

For Apollo 9, NASA would probably have relied on the ARIA (Apollo Range and Instrumentation Aircraft) EC-135Ns to maintain the voice and data links between the spacecraft and Houston. During the lunar flights, those communications would have been routed through the three radio telescope dishes on Earth and one would always have been within line of sight of the moon during a lunar mission.

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posted 12-16-2007 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jay Chladek:
Carrying out realtime communications between the spacecraft and Mission Control would have been more difficult due to the gaps in the tracking station coverage.
Sounds logical. As they say in Portugal, Muito obrigado Senhor!

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posted 12-26-2007 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sy Liebergot   Click Here to Email Sy Liebergot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It appears that the website for the Murray/Cox "Apollo: Race To the Moon" book has been taken down. My link no longer works. Can anyone verify this?

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posted 12-26-2007 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would appear so, Sy - I see however that the Boggs Spacebooks site for info. on the book, and signed copies, is still up and running.

Sy Liebergot
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posted 12-26-2007 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sy Liebergot   Click Here to Email Sy Liebergot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Too bad. I need to contact Charles, but it appears the e-dress is no longer valid.

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posted 12-26-2007 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If Boggs is offering signed copies, they could probably forward a message for you?

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posted 12-26-2007 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Naraht   Click Here to Email Naraht     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sy Liebergot:
It appears that the website for the Murray/Cox "Apollo: Race To the Moon" book has been taken down. My link no longer works. Can anyone verify this?

Yeah, I noticed that too. I was hoping that it was just my internet connection. It's a real shame--I have pointed so many people there for the audio and the photos.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-26-2007 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This may be (and hopefully is) a temporary outage. The domain itself is registered and owned by Cox & Murray, Inc. through 2009.

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posted 12-26-2007 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rjurek349   Click Here to Email rjurek349     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok. That does it - I ordered my copy. I've only been putting off tracking down a copy for years...and with the re-issue, I thought: what's the rush? Now that the site is down - I'm not taking any more chances. Thanks Sy, for letting us know. And Francis, thanks for pointing out the available copies at Boggs.

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posted 12-27-2007 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm...maybe the value of my extra original hardback copy will increase again?

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posted 12-27-2007 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Naraht   Click Here to Email Naraht     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's hoping. My first edition hardback is signed by Sy, Jack Garman and Fred Haise. I should have asked Robert Seamans to sign it at the same time (the MAPLD 2006 conference) but I didn't.

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posted 12-27-2007 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mdmyer   Click Here to Email mdmyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These books are great to have signed. My first edition hardback has been signed by John Aaron, Jerry Bostick, Chris Kraft, Glynn Lunney, Milton Windler, Steven Bales, Sy Liebergot, Gene Kranz, Guenter Wendt, and CAPCOM astronauts Charlie Duke, Jerry Carr, Jack Lousma, and Friendship 7 Back Up Scott Carpenter. And it has also been signed by Charles Murray and Catherine Cox.

It is one of my favorite signed books.

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