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Bookman1975
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posted 08-17-2004 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bookman1975   Click Here to Email Bookman1975     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are your opinions on the "From the Earth to the Moon" series on HBO? Personally I think it is fantastic, with super special effects, great portrayals, and an obvious respect for all those involved with Apollo. What does everyone else think?

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In my opinion the miniseries "From the Earth to the Moon" is well worth watching. The theme music is great too. There are many space related movies out there but most Executive Producer don't come close to what Tom Hanks stands for. He got the right idea about space and knows what we spacoholic want.

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I thought the series was fabulous.

Hanks lined up quite a crew of experts to pull off a state of the art series.

I've always wondered during the Apollo 12 chapter they show the crew in quarantine smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol. Was that artistic license or did they really do that in quarantine?

That chapter along with "Spider" were a couple of my favorite ones.

Additionally, the launch sequences, the spacecraft shots on the way to the moon and LM touching down were all well done and very cool.

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The scene that gave me goosebumps is where a group of Apollo astronauts is assembled in a room by Deke Slayton for his announcement that they are the crews that will make the first lunar landing missions. Of course I read it in Walt Cunningham's book (I think), but seeing it depicted like this was really impressive.

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posted 08-18-2004 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for icarkie   Click Here to Email icarkie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A great series.

The Apollo 12 chapter is also my favourite, with several funny moment from Conrad telling his crew to go and poop, Beano with (both) cameras and Gordon getting his own back getting Conrad and Bean to strip after docking from the moon.

Also a special moment when Pete Conrad placed CC Williams (who was never forgotten) wings on the moon.

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posted 08-18-2004 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueNorth   Click Here to Email TrueNorth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As it happens I just watched the Apollo 12 episode last night. Third time and it just gets better. Like Rizz, this one and Spider were my faves.

I think most on here will agree that the whole series was great. Whether it transcends into the regular population is questionable though. There were a couple of flat episodes, Apollo 13 in particular. That was a tough one as the movie covered it very well, so they did this episode focused on the journalistic coverage of the mission.

But all in all it was great and probably served along with Apollo 13 the movie to create a lot of renewed interest in the Space Program, and to light fires under folks like me who had let their interest in the subject go dormant. I've wondered if this was actually the case for others? It seems like since these productions came out there has been a boom (no doubt the popularity of the Internet has played a large role also).

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I always wanted it to be shown on the big screen so I bought a BIG BIG screen TV and watched the Apollo 12 episode first, then Apollo 17, then Apollo 11, then Spider (then I let the family watch something).

If you watch the Apollo 1 episode, look carefully... there's a point during the investigation where the actor who portrays the guy from the Bureau of Mine Safety, the line comes out, "the fire was caused by frayed wiring?" although his lips say "faulty wiring" probably to avoid a lawsuit by Rockwell?

Yes! I have watched them all WAY too closely!!

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posted 08-18-2004 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bookman1975   Click Here to Email Bookman1975     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have three favorites. Like everyone else, I loved the Apollo 12 and Spider episodes, but the more I see the Apollo 15 episode, the more I like it.

I just finished Andy Chaiken's book for the second time. Reading about how hard Dave Scott prepared for that mission is downright inspiring.

When I do get to meet these guys, all I will probably be able to say is "Uh, hi Mr. Scott. Sign my picture please?" But I would really like to ask them what they think of the series, and how close to reality it came.

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I was one of the few who checked it out from the public library. It is a great series! One well worth watching over and over. This one is on my "to buy list."

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I've always credited this series with re-igniting my boyhood passion for the space program. I've always been particularly touched by the scene in which Frank Borman testifies before the congressional committee regarding the Apollo 1 fire. I've often wondered how accurately this was portrayed, but the portrayal is wonderful.

I've enjoyed many of the episodes enough to make them my "favorite" for a time, but (oddly enough) I've been quite fond of the one about the Astronaut's wives most recently. Part of it, I suppose, is that they have taken a bunch of beautiful and talented contemporary actresses and had them portray women from an era that looked upon women in a much different way than we do now. (My congratulations to Sally Fields on a terrific job.) Also, I think it's one of the biggest travesties of the space race that so many of the astronauts' families were hurt so badly by it. The scenes portraying the Bormans and Lovells were, I think, wonderful.

A great series. We're lucky Tom Hanks and HBO did it.

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posted 08-20-2004 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonwalker1954   Click Here to Email Moonwalker1954     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This series is "out of this world"!! The fact that each episode is directed by a different director kind of gives a personnality to it. Like many, my favorite episodes are Apollo 12, Spider and Apollo 15.

I highly recommend this series to those who are not familiar with the space program and to those under 35 who didn't have the chance to witness it live.

Thanks to Tom Hanks and HBO.

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I love the series, particularly the Apollo 12 and 17 episodes. I once asked Dick Gordon what he thought of the series, he kind of laughed off my question, but then I asked if he really made Conrad and Bean strip, he responded "Yeah, I wasn't going to let those two get my CM dirty."

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From The Digital Bits:
We have official details for you on HBO's updated From The Earth To The Moon: The Signature Edition (due 9/20 - SRP $99.98). The 5-disc set will include all 12 episodes in anamorphic widescreen with Dolby Digital 5.1 EX audio. The extras look to be mostly the same as what was available on the original DVD release (although some of contents that were previously ROM based MAY now be available on the set-top side). The extras will include the HBO First Look behind-the-scenes featurette, a special effects featurette, information on Famous Astronomers, History of the Moon and The Space Race timelines, video of President Kennedy's historic speech to Congress on May 25, 1961, an interactive tour of the solar system and other space phenomena, promotional trailers for the mini-series and more. There MAY be a bit of new material as well - we should know more soon.

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posted 03-27-2006 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for paul prendergast   Click Here to Email paul prendergast     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have just finished watching the HBO series which was released last week in the UK.

Over 13 hours of good acting no big name stars, all I can say that it well acted. What do our friends across the water think? I gather it won an Emmy for the Best Miniseries.

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I'm not sure it it won any awards, but it was most entertaining. A nice visualization to Chaikin's book "Man on the Moon". I particularly found the "back stories" most interesting including Spider which told the story of Tom Kelley and the Grumman crew during the development of the LEM/LM. Other points of note are Is that all there is? and the one featuring Dr. Silver the geologist.

Overall the casting was good, particularly the character of Frank Borman. I thought Mark Harmon as Wally Schirra was a bit of a strech! ...sorry Wally.

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It did win an Emmy award for best miniseries. You're right, the Frank Borman actor was dead-on, and I liked the guy who played Pete Conrad in the Apollo 12 episode. I too, thought Mark Harmon as Wally Schirra was a stretch.

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I actually found it more accurate than "Apollo 13". It was exceptionally well-made.

I couldn't get my kids to read Chaikin's book, but they enjoyed the series. After watching the Guenter Wendt characterization on the Apollo 7 episode, I showed them my autographed photo of Wendt clowning around with Shepard and Mitchell in the Apollo 14 white room. They said, "Wow, he's just like on the TV show!"

This series, combined with the IMAX "Magnificent Desolation - Walking on the Moon in 3D," are about as close as we're going to get at the moment to experiencing what it was like to be there.

The dedication to "Virtual Apollo", which has a forward by Tom Hanks, describes Hanks as "an Earthbound astronaut". I think that's a dead-on assessment - he's about the best friend the manned space program has in Hollywood. If you had a chance to see the "extras" disc that came with "Apollo 13," you hear Hanks talking about what it was like to be fully suited up and walking across the gantry to the White Room - he said he felt he was walking on hallowed ground.

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posted 03-28-2006 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rjb1elec   Click Here to Email rjb1elec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Guenter played a cameo part in the Apollo 7 episode (in a meeting with Wally and various management). Does anybody know whether there were any others from the Apollo era connected with the series?

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posted 03-29-2006 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Procter   Click Here to Email Steve Procter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recall when the series was first shown I solicited opinions from various astronauts I wrote to at the time. Most enjoyed it but did have a few comments to make (as they would).

I do remember Gene Kranz comments - "series was not up to par - only Apollo 11 and Apollo 15 were good". I would add Apollo 12 as one of my favourites.

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I have watched this miniseries twice now and totally enjoyed it and I think it has been put together extremely well.

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posted 04-13-2006 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duke Of URL   Click Here to Email Duke Of URL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was watching episode 3 and had a question.

In the scene of Gus Grissom's funeral at Arlington, some archive footage is used. Some children are shown, and one is a blonde girl.

Is this our Ms. Stoever?

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posted 04-13-2006 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KC Stoever   Click Here to Email KC Stoever     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was at Arlington Cemetery in 1968 for RFK's burial, but not in 1967 for Gus's. Just my parents went, if I remember correctly.

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The actor that played Frank Borman did a nice job with the hearings in that episode, you think?

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posted 04-13-2006 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TLI   Click Here to Email TLI     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also think the actor who played Frank Borman was excellent,

Its strange that many of the series' actors were also in Apollo 13 although playing different roles!

  • FTETTM actor who plays Frank Borman plays Pete Conrad in Apollo 13

  • FTETTM actor who plays Dave Scott plays Jack Lousma in Apollo 13

  • FTETTM actor who plays Bob Parker plays Deke Slayton in Apollo 13

  • FTETTM actor who plays Roger Chaffee plays John Young in Apollo 13
There may be a few others that I've missed!

Also I think would have been nice if Tom Hanks had reprised his role as Jim Lovell for the series.

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And Bryan Cranston, "Buzz Aldrin" of FTETTM, was Gus Grissom in "That Thing You Do" along with Steve Zahn as Elliot See. As I recall, Cranston was also in "Saving Private Ryan."

They belong to the Playtone Galaxy Of Stars.

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Originally posted by TLI:
FTETTM actor who plays Bob Parker plays Deke Slayton in Apollo 13
This guy... Chris Ellis also plays Phil Horrace in That Thing sans the weapon of course!

And I just noticed a hero of mine on the cast list, but oddly enough I don't remember seeing Jimmy Buffett while watching. Did I miss The Parrothead or did he end up on the cutting room floor?

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Am I the only one who noticed Andrew Chaikin's nameplate said "Marilyn" Chaikin? I can't imagine I am, although I may be the only one goofy enough to mention it.

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I've been watching the HBO series "From The Earth To The Moon" again and was wondering does anyone have any stories and/or comments of what the astronauts themselves think of the series?

Did they feel they were accurately portrayed or were there inaccuracies?

Editor's note: Threads merged.

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I've had occasion to discuss with several of those astronauts that I work closely with and the prevailing opinion is that it was well respected for it's overall accuracy. Wally, felt that Mark Harmon was an especially good choice to portray him and cited the actor's good looks for making him the ideal, "Wally Schirra" (lol).

They seem to respect this film and Apollo 13 vs, while holding "The Right Stuff" in very low esteem for among other things, it's portrayal of Gus Grissom being strongly implicated as being responsible for the loss of Liberty Bell 7.

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I've always wondered how Alan Bean felt about being made to look a bit of a goofball- played by all-around goofball, Dave Foley. Still, most folks I've talked with consider the "That's All There Is" Apollo 12 episode their favorite. At least twice, I've played that for people who were totally down and out on space- thought Apollo was a big waste of money-- and it changed their minds! After Bean's great punchline at the end, one such lady turned to me smiling and teary-eyed and said, "That makes it all human... now I understand why we had to go."

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I used to wonder that a lot, too. At the UACC signing in Burbank in 2004, Al Bean told me that he thought that Dave Scott (technical advisor--I think that's the correct title--for FTETTM) had been very "kind" to him in the way he was portrayed in the episode. He said that in reality he had been "much worse than that". This statement was totally unsolicited.

I must say, though, that the statement was made with a smile on his face and a twinkle in his eye--both qualities that I suspect are very common with astronaut Bean.

I personally suspect that Al was "much better than that" but that he has a wonderful, self-deprecating sense of humor. In any event, the episode is an absolute classic and one to be treasured.

Funny, I was thinking about starting to watch the series again tonight. We'll see if my wife (who says "You could STAR in that series" every time I start to watch it again) goes to sleep early.

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I had the pleasure of sitting at Dave Scott's table at the San Antonio show a few months ago and asked him about being the technical advisor for Apollo 13 and From the Earth to the Moon. He got the gig because he was located in LA and Jim Lovell did not want to travel to act as technical advisor. Then after Apollo 13, he signed on for additional Tom Hanks productions.

Scott said, "I spent 9 months on Apollo 13 and unlike what I've heard about Hollywood, they were real class acts, very professional, paid great attention to detail."

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I really think that this was a great series. One thing that I'm sure of though is that two different actors played Pete Conrad. Paul McCrane played him in 'That's all there is' but I'm convinced that in the 'Max Peck' scene in another episode, Conrad was played by someone called Peter Scolari!

Can anyone confirm this?

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While I can't confirm it at the moment, I did note that a couple of astronauts were played by different people throughout the series. I seem to recall a couple of guys played John Young too.

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Per IMDB:
In the first episode, astronaut Pete Conrad is played by two different actors. Peter Scolari plays the role for most of the episode, but in the final "all hands meeting" scene, Paul McCrane takes over the role. (McCrane plays Conrad again in Episode 7.)
According to the IMDB, only Conrad was played by multiple actors. There were however, actors from "Apollo 13" who reprised their roles as astronauts, albeit different astronauts than those they played in the 1995 movie.

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I do know that the Beans really like Dave Foley. You can extrapolate what you want from that.

Another little piece of trivia.

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What I love is that between "From The Earth To The Moon" and "Apollo 13," we've had two astronauts played by the two stars of the ABC sit-com "Bosom Buddies." I love Tom Hanks, but every time I see him or Peter Scolari, their days as "Buffy" and "Hildegarde" are the first thing that pop to mind.

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Somehow it would have been an entirely different miniseries if this was how Lovell and Conrad were portrayed...

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I appreciate the good intentions of Tom Hanks and Ron Howard when they made Apollo 13 and FTETTM.

But all the mistakes that were made with the SFX of Apollo 13 makes it unwatchable for me anymore. They only did marginally better with FTETTM.

I'm a special effects modeller - I've dealt with changing deadlines, producer/director pressure, etc. And I know that the SFX schedule for Apollo 13 was cut by Universal who wanted to get the movie released a few months earlier than originally scheduled.

But even taking these facts into account, the SFX crew at Digital Domain could have actually looked at pictures of an actual Saturn V instead of painting the Revell Germany Saturn V they bought like the totally inaccurate picture on the box. The Digital Domain SFX crew stated in the "Making of Apollo 13" article in Cinefex Magazine that they used had gotten piles of reference material to work with, and from the shots they made obviously never actually looked at any of it. With all the time the production crew spent filming zero-g sequences in the Vomit Comet based at Ellington, it wouldn't have taken a whole lot of effort to go to JSC and actually look at a real Saturn V. In the first scenes in the movie on the MOCR set, they have a picture of an actual Saturn V on the pad at KSC on the big screen.

FTETTM inherited some of the models from Apollo 13, and they were repainted to be more accurate. But for the majority of the shots showing the Saturn V in flight, they modified another 1/96th scale Revell Germany Saturn V, and still didn't take the time to get the details right. They didn't correct the innacurate markings on the S-IC, the S-II stage details are wrong, and there is no excuse for it - all the resources they could possibly need to build an accurate Saturn V were easily available online at the time.

I won't go in to all the inaccuracies of the Wally Schirra/Apollo 7 episode - there are way too many. They made the ultimate (well, to me anyway) sin of showing footage from the launches of two different types of launch vehicle (Saturn 1-B and the Saturn V) to depict the Apollo 7 launch.

It was great that some of the stories of the Apollo era that hadn't been given a lot of general public exposure got told.

Sure they had Dave Scott and others who actually were part of Apollo as technical advisers. I would hope that someone acting in that capacity spoke up and said that the models weren't accurate. More than likely they were thanked for their input and were told that it would be it was too late/too expensive to correct the shot, the shot won't be on the screen long enough for anyone to tell the difference, we'll CGI it later, insert cliched industry excuse for not doing the right thing here.

But I think that there is a responsibility to the producers and directors of projects like this to make sure that they get all the details (no matter how inconseqential they may seem) right - to properly honor and respect all the people of that era whose hard work, sacrifice and loss of friends and family got us to the moon, and those of us who know them, or knew and remember them. them.

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quote:
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They made the ultimate (well, to me anyway) sin of showing footage from the launches of two different types of launch vehicle (Saturn 1-B and the Saturn V) to depict the Apollo 7 launch.
I happen to have knowledge of the exact reason the shot of the Saturn V was used during the Apollo 7 launch episode.

When I was producing the Saturn 1 and 1B and Saturn V disc sets, I got dubs of the material that was transferred by Marshall for the FTETTM folks. In the middle of the Apollo 7 reels was this one shot (the one used) of a Saturn V liftoff. It was given to the producers as part of the Apollo 7 material.

So I know how it happened, but that doesn't excuse the fact that it wasn't caught and fixed. Anyone with a basic knowledge of Apollo would have caught this error, and many of the others. After all, we caught it and didn't use it on either the Saturn 1B or the Apollo 7 disc sets.


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