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Axman
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posted 06-30-2023 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Axman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anybody tell me: did Kniga put out any Soyuz 11 covers signed by the cosmonauts? And, if the answer is no, widening the question, are there any known genuine Georgy Dobrovolsky or Viktor Patsayev signatures on any philatelic material at all?

MarkRP
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posted 06-30-2023 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarkRP   Click Here to Email MarkRP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, Kniga didn't produce any crew signed Soyuz 11 covers.

At the time rookie cosmonauts weren't known for autographing anything till after their first flight. Because of this the only legitimate items signed by Dobrovolsky and Patsayev are probably in the possession of family members and Russian museums.

cosmos-walter
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posted 07-01-2023 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmos-walter   Click Here to Email cosmos-walter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never came across a philatelic item which was genuinely signed by Dobrovolski and/or Patsayev.

Axman
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posted 07-01-2023 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Axman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your answers, very definitive.

Bob M
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posted 07-01-2023 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob M   Click Here to Email Bob M     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both Mark and Walter have said it very well concerning the (non)existence of authentic collector material autographed by the doomed Soyuz 11 crew.

But "lucky" collectors back 20-25 years ago had many opportunities to buy covers, photos and cards signed by the Soyuz 11 crew and from many outlets, including Superior and Aurora auctions.

My ancient and outdated website has a section on forgeries that gives a good overview of the notorious Soyuz 11 autographs and displays some.

When there, click on "Forgeries" at the top and then scroll down past the infamous Armstrong and Apollo 11 material, plus examples of other forgeries, to the material on Soyuz 11.

cosmos-walter
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posted 07-01-2023 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmos-walter   Click Here to Email cosmos-walter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soyuz 11 launched in the morning of June 6, 1971. I don't think it's very likely that the crew signed covers on their launch day.

The Star City museum shows two photos that were signed by the Soyuz 11 crew on board of Salyut-1. Moreover, a few Dobrovolski or Patsayev signed documents were sold at auctions.

Axman
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posted 07-01-2023 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Axman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Bob for your insightful post. Your ancient and outdated website (!) has been added to my homepage.

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