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From: Toms River, NJ
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posted 12-05-2016 12:09 AM               

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How rare are the six-person STS-117 crew signatures on a litho versus a signed litho with all seven astronauts (e.g., including Anderson)?

Were many six-person STS-117 crew lithos distributed (and more importantly, kept and not destroyed)?

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From: Gardner, KS, USA
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posted 12-06-2016 01:15 PM               

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Mine is not a litho but rather a photo of the patch without Anderson's name. So it's signed by six of the seven!

I never knew about the crew photo having just the six and existing in signed form!

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From: Toms River, NJ
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posted 12-06-2016 08:18 PM               

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If you click on the link you'll get to see it. There was a small window when the final post-Columbia STS-117 crew was announced and when Anderson was named to the crew, a few months.

It's like the original STS-114 pre-Columbia crew litho, that it existed for a small period of time. (I think there was also one other pre-Columbia manifested crew that also existed in litho form.)

I'm also asking because I'm on the fence as to whether the signatures are real and I'm debating what to do with it, particularly since I have another six-person 117 signed item. Either way, it's a nice, different, item.

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From: Toms River, NJ
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posted 12-07-2016 11:52 AM               

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That's something I'll keep in mind, although the in-person ISPs I have of Reilly and Swanson has their signed names on one line and two, respectively.

What's suspect to me and my myopic eye is the left three look to be parallel to each other, the right three also parallel to each other. (Although - I have an STS-40 CP with seemingly parallel signatures, from Lunar Legacies.) Plus, wouldn't someone like Olivas sign a little lower for better contrast, rather than across the neck of his spacesuit?

I also see dots at the end of Jim, at the end of Sturckow's first name, and at the end of Forrester. If this indeed is an autopen, I'm not out much, and I consider it a bonus since I have another six-person 117 signed item which came with it.