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mbsg
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posted 12-31-2003 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mbsg   Click Here to Email mbsg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a relatively new collector, and I've appreciated reading the expertise of those individuals on this message board. I was hoping you could help me...

Could the following items on eBay be real? I see that this same seller had sold the exact same set of autographs for around $100, so I'm skeptical about bidding. As a new collector, I'd love to be able to pick up a "bargain", but you know what they say about it being too good to be true.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14438&item=2213490947

Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

Happy New Year.

Ed Krutulis
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posted 12-31-2003 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ed Krutulis   Click Here to Email Ed Krutulis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Not sure of this strategy, but I for one would ask the seller some questions, via ebay.

I too am selling some items on ebay, but I know they are worth the starting bid, plus!!

My 2 cents.

Happy New Year !!!!

Ed

Steve Procter
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posted 12-31-2003 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Procter   Click Here to Email Steve Procter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Buyer beware,

Isn't the seller someone who various members of the group have had problems with in the past?

He may have a new ID but I'm sure it's the same guy who ran Destiny Space.

Others more knowledgable on this gentleman may wish to comment.

Steve

Matt T
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posted 12-31-2003 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Matt T   Click Here to Email Matt T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,
I believe that the seller is the one referred to in this thread -
http://collectspace.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000086.html

I would add my own name to the list of people who did finally receive items, but only after numerous emails to the seller including threats of legal action and reporting of fraud. The whole process took over eight months.

You might get a bargain, you might get ripped off, but either way you will definitely get a nightmare transaction.

Cheers,
Matt

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posted 12-31-2003 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for micropooz   Click Here to Email micropooz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look at the seller's eBay feedback. That may not answer the question of authenticity, but should tell you something that you'd like to know before bidding. 'Nuff said?

spaced out
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posted 12-31-2003 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should definitely read the thread given above, and yes it is the same guy. I believe he is in the process of clearing out his last remaining stock of signed astro photos.

My own experience is that you have to allow lots of time for delivery and then double-check what you receive. I'm currently waiting for a picture that was missing from the package...

The photos are genuine though, at least in my humble opinion, so that's not something to worry about. The trick is actually getting your hands on them.

Scott
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posted 12-31-2003 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by micropooz:
Look at the seller's eBay feedback. That may not answer the question of authenticity, but should tell you something that you'd like to know before bidding. 'Nuff said?

Thank you micropooz. I mainly replied with a quote because I wanted your post to be in BOLD. 95.2% feedback. When I see something like that from a seller who's been selling awhile, I don't even hang around the ad long enough to look at the starting bid or pictures. Adios.

On a separate point - don't always write off a low starting bid. I once nearly won for $14 a 1938 copy of The Evolution of Physics authentically hand-signed by Albert Einstein with his full name. Yes it was real, not one of the 99% forgeries of him on eBay. The seller (God bless him) had really messed up on the ad, its description, category and also said he wasn't sure if it was authentic. Someone besides me in the last seconds put in a bid for $230 (still only 10% of it's worth) and so that's what I paid for it. Still the best deal I've ever gotten on eBay.

[This message has been edited by Scott (edited December 31, 2003).]

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posted 12-31-2003 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AuthenticItems   Click Here to Email AuthenticItems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Buyer beware, the items are real, however you may never receive them. He does have them, but for whatever reason this guy will one day decide to not send you your merchandise, even if you are an established customer of his. He has done it to countless people over the years, including myself. He has been officially investigated by many agencies (so Iíve heard), but still continues to sell. Sooner or later he will get nailed for fraud. This guy has bounced around ebay accounts, two I can remember are blueprintplace and usablueprints. They both are both deserted accounts now. So I guess you should say, if you do fraudulent business transactions, but just not all the time...does that still make you a crook?

Scott
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posted 12-31-2003 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Almost forgot...

My brother-in-law is one of the latest victims. A couple of months ago he told me he hadn't received an item he'd won on eBay. You can imagine how my heart sank when I went to the item and saw this clown's user ID as the seller. I told my brother-in-law the same thing I tell everyone:

Look at the feedback. Always look at the feedback. Consistent bad feedback for a seller is not their bad luck. It is indicative of a problem.

gliderpilotuk
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posted 01-01-2004 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Authenticitems is right. This is the (in)famous Rob Levin of Florida, aka usablueprints, aka Destinyspace, aka...
I have little doubt about his goods but how often does he deliver? I reported him to www.fraud.org after 9 months of non-delivery. In the end he delivered 3 alternative lithos of about the same value, but I do not need another Mitchell!
See the other thread for the full detail.
Paul Bramley

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