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cljohnston108
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Hey there! First post here.

I was there opening day, and after dealing with the tickets, lines and trading different colored poker chips, I got to the door, handed the lady my chip and looked up... and let out the loudest gasp I've ever had! The "door lady" chuckled and said. "And there it is."

As I walked underneath Endeavour, I was fighting back tears, and just about felt like jumping up and down and shouting, "I WANT MY SPACE PROGRAM BACK, DAMMIT!" But it ended up being such a great day, because I found myself answering questions for all the fascinated-yet-bewildered folks who'd come up to me on account of my t-shirt with the big honkin' NASA logo on it.

Since then I've been boning up on my shuttle lore by actually reading the Jenkins book, which I've had for about a decade, but only ever looked at the diagrams of all the wacky concepts that were considered.

Also, I just got my copy of "Wings In Orbit" that I've had my eye on all year. (Kinda beat-up, but it was the last copy B&N had, so they knocked 10 bucks off it!)

I plan on spending lots of time with Endeavour, and I'm gonna be bringin' those two books with me. Hmm, think they might offer me a job?

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Originally posted by cljohnston108:
...and let out the loudest gasp I've ever had! The "door lady" chuckled and said. "And there it is."
I did the same first time I stepped out of the theater at KSC and found myself under the Saturn F-1 engines.

Post photos if you are going to be there a lot!

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Space shuttle Endeavour's museum move focus of new photo exhibit

Space shuttle Endeavour's final journey to become a museum display last year is now the focus of a new photography exhibit at its Los Angeles home.

The California Science Center opens "Mission 26: The Big Endeavour" on Monday (March 11), an exhibition adding a new experience for guests visiting the retired NASA space shuttle. The more than 80 images in the gallery serve to highlight the scenes that were witnessed by spectators as Endeavour was flown over the Golden State and during its 12-mile, 68-hour journey through city streets.

The new exhibit, which is sponsored by the Los Angeles Times, includes many of the images that the newspaper's photographers took during the unprecedented delivery. A time lapse video, together with contributions from students in the area, complete the gallery, which invites guests to recall what it was like to be part of the historic event.

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The girlfriend and I are planning to take AmTrak down from Northern California to visit the Endeavour exhibit next month. Any advice on where to stay, how to get around? It's our primary mission.

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David Knight, who coordinated and produced the video documentary efforts to capture Endeavour's delivery to Los Angeles, shares this nine-minute video highlighting "Mission 26," which is now playing in the California Science Center.

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Space shuttle Endeavour's Toyota tow truck gives California Science Center a lift

The pickup truck that last year helped to tow a retired space shuttle to its museum display is now part of an interactive exhibit designed to demonstrate how to pick up large things.

The California Science Center in Los Angeles, which now displays the space shuttle Endeavour, debuted its newly-upgraded "Giant Lever" exhibit Friday morning (May 31), featuring the silver Toyota Tundra pickup truck that helped deliver the massive orbiter to the museum last October...

...Friday's unveiling wasn't the only "pickup" however, for the science center: Toyota Motor Sales, USA also presented the museum with a check for $401,300, the amount raised during a "tweet drive" leading up to the Tundra's towing of Endeavour.

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This photo was taken June 8, 2013 at the California Science Center.

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Seeing how the external tank was built at Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex for "Atlantis", will the same be done for "Endeavour" when it will be displayed in a vertical position in the future?

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An external tank is being fabricated for Endeavour's exhibit inside the new Oschin Air & Space Center, but it will be different from the outdoor replica displayed at the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex.

(From what I've heard, the science center may have recently had representatives touring the Michoud Assembly Facility outside New Orleans for external tank parts.)

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So, out of that 68-hour slow journey through the streets of SoCal the orbiter was hooked up to the Toyota truck what, about 5 minutes? Thus, the TV commercial seems to be borderline false advertising.

Also, was the pickup actually pulling Endeavour on it's 80 wheels, or was it still propelled by Sarens?

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The four self-propelled transporters were not rated for passage over the freeway bridge, necessitating the tow. So yes, the Tundra was, in fact, pulling Endeavour without assistance.

Toyota never said (at least to my knowledge) that it was towing Endeavour any great distance; the commercials focused on the weight of the tow, not the length.

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Mrs. Meek and I found ourselves in LA for a conference/gig last week, with a day to spare up front. Naturally, seeing Endeavour topped the list of things to do.

Last time we saw her was the STS-134 abort. And as I quipped to my wife, Endeavour was moving about as fast as she was the last time we saw her.

Can't say I was particularly a fan of the gyrations you have to go through to actually get to the shuttle. Though I do understand that the labyrinth of rope lines, "pre-show" displays, travel through other exhibits, and the location of the gift shop in the display hall is a temporary arrangement as they raise funds for the permanent display.

Kudos to CSC for putting the entrance to the building on the right end of the spacecraft. With these big space displays, I appreciate a little showmanship: I always enjoy watching first-timers get a view of the business end of the Saturn V's at USSRC and KSC. With the shuttle, the cockpit/nameplate is the iconic view. Even in the temporary display, the first view you get of Endeavour is an almost religious experience. As a kid of the 80's/90's, I'm an unabashed shuttle hugger, and the wave of nostalgia brought a tear to my eye.

My wife and I have been taking a series of photos every 2 weeks during our pregnancy, and we took week 22's photo in front of the shuttle. Can't wait to bring our daughter back in a few years.

So, that's a check for Columbia (Huntsville, 1990's) and Endeavour (CSC, 2013). 3 to go. I think it's time to book a few FL/DC/NY gigs.

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I too had a chance to visit the Endeavour on July 13th, and agree. They've done a wonderful job. JUUUUUUST out of reach but you are right there.

If I had a complaint it would only be finding it was rather difficult, even with directions.

Lost in the shuffle is the Mercury capsule that carried Ham, the GT-11 capsule and ASTP CM.

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Mr Meek, I'm curious: was your sighting of Columbia on top of a SCA in transit from a California landing, or for another reason? Thanks.

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Not to pull this thread too far off topic, but as I recall (I was probably 10-12 at the time), Columbia was on her way back to KSC from Edwards. It's possible she was headed the other way for her OMDP, but I really don't remember what year it was, sorry.

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California Science Center release
NASA Dryden Pilots, Photographers and Videographer from Space Shuttle Endeavour Flyover to Share their Experience with Science Camp Students at the California Science Center

As the California Science Center prepares to celebrate the one-year anniversary of the Space Shuttle Endeavour's historic flyover and transport from LAX to Exposition Park, NASA Dryden pilots who flew the 747 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft (SCA) and F-18 chase aircraft, along with the photographers and videographer will share their stories and images with students from Hands-On Science Camp on Friday, Aug. 9, 2013 from 10:00 to 11:00 a.m. PDT.

The NASA Dryden team will also be available to sign autographs for the general public near the Mission 26: The Big Endeavour Photo Exhibit on Saturday, August 10, 2013 from 11 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.

  • William F. Brockett – Shuttle Aircraft Carrier (SCA) pilot
  • David Nils Larson – F-18 pilot
  • Troy A. Asher – F-18 pilot
  • Lori Losey – Videographer responsible for flyover video taken of Southern California
  • Carla Thomas – Photographer responsible for images taken of Golden Gate Bridge and other Northern California images
  • Jim Ross – Photographer responsible for Southern California flyover images

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California Science Center release
Endeavour Fest

October 11-13, 2013

The California Science Center is commemorating the one-year anniversary of Endeavour's arrival at its Samuel Oschin Pavilion with a celebration to thank everyone who joined in supporting the shuttle's historic journey. The two-day event includes an Endeavour Fest on Oct. 12 and 13, with fun space exhibits, and the opening of a Red Bull Stratos Exhibit featuring the 3,000 pound capsule used by Felix Baumgartner when he jumped from the stratosphere and became the first human to break the sound barrier during free fall.

Come learn about the science and engineering of Endeavour, on display in the Samuel Oschin Pavilion, as well as upcoming space exploration programs for humans, robots and satellites. You'll also discover the latest news about our future plans for Endeavour's new permanent home in the Science Center’s Samuel Oschin Air and Space Center.

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My wonderful wife surprised me with a suggestion that we drive down to So Cal next week and go see the shuttle exhibit for my birthday (Oct 3). How cool is that?

Anyone been there lately? This will be my first visit to the Center so wondering what I can expect. My wife and 14 year old daughter (neither great science buffs) will be with me. I hope there will be something there to interest them. Thanks in advance for any sage advice.

Oh, and by the way, my lovely wife later commented that as long as we were down in LA, she may get just a little outlet shopping in as well. I should have seen that one coming!

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'Endeavour Fest' celebrates space shuttle exhibit at California Science Center

One year and nearly 3 million visitors later, NASA's retired space shuttle Endeavour is the focus of a celebration at its Los Angeles museum home.

The California Science Center is commemorating the first anniversary of Endeavour's delivery to its Samuel Oschin Pavilion with a celebration to thank everyone who joined in supporting the shuttle's historic journey. "Endeavour Fest" begins on Friday (Oct. 11) and runs through Sunday with special exhibits and astronaut guest speakers scheduled.

"It is kind of a fusion of the flyover and landing, and then the move of the orbiter and the opening," Kenneth Phillips, the science center's curator of aerospace, said Thursday in an interview with collectSPACE.com. "Those took place about a month apart, so this is a celebration of all of that."

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And from the Endeavour Fest article, a preview of things to come...
"We're preparing, a year from now, to put the Spacehab in the payload bay," Phillips told collectSPACE. "We have to figure out how we're going to move the attach hardware in the payload bay to where it needs to be. We have had the crew hatch open [today] and have gone from there through the middeck into the payload bay to get an idea as to what we need."

"The next eight months or so will be spent pulling together the ground support equipment and everything we need to execute the opening of the payload bay doors," he added.

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Julie Chiron presents Mission 26.1:
To commemorate the first anniversary of Endeavour's arrival at its Samuel Oschin Pavilion, I reenacted the historic journey with a radio controlled space shuttle.

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Funny little tribute video, even went by the doughnut store!

But, why are they putting Spacehab into the cargo bay? I thought Endeavour was going to be displayed in launch position?

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Astrotech donated two Spacehab flight units to the California Science Center: the Logistics Single Module (LSM), which last flew on STS-118, and a second unit, which together with the LSM formed the Logistics Double Module (LDM), which last flew on STS-106.

One of the units will be placed into Endeavour's payload bay; the other will be exhibited alongside the shuttle (likely on the gantry tower that will allow guests to ascend the height of the vehicle).

When Endeavour is exhibited vertically, its port (or left) side payload bay door will be open to enable guests to look inside.

The science center has not yet decided which module they're placing in Endeavour.

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Thanks, Robert. I did not know one door would be open... that should look spectacular!

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Very cool video indeed!

Along the route are there any markers or signage that depicts the original journey?

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The Los Angeles Times profiles Dennis Jenkins and the work he is doing for the California Science Center to source space shuttle artifacts to display along with Endeavour in the new Samuel Oschin Air & Space Center.
Jenkins spent 30-plus years — his entire career — sending the shuttles into space. Now, with the program part of a bygone era of exploration, the 57-year-old works for the California Science Center, helping officials figure out how to display their own orbiter, Endeavour.

The Exposition Park museum wants to showcase its crown jewel as if it's on the launch pad, a display that will take thousands of pieces to pull off — parts that are scattered at NASA facilities, museums and other places across the U.S. Most are one of a kind and impossible to replicate.

So for the past year, Jenkins has crisscrossed the country, scouring NASA scrap yards and asking old colleagues if they have what he needs to rebuild the shuttle launch stack, piece by piece.

VIDEO: Collecting space junk for California Science Center

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Are there any rendering showing what Endeavour will look like when she's on display stacked with the ET and SRBs?

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The California Science Center displays floor layouts and two early concept models for its planned Oschin Air and Space Center inside the Oschin Endeavour Display Pavilion. Here is one of the models:

Here's a video interview with curator Ken Phillips describing the model.

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California Science Center update
'Go for Payload' update

The exterior of the north wall has been removed in preparation for Go for Payload.

What is "Go for Payload"?

There are three more stages leading up to Endeavour's lift into the vertical launch position in 2018; Go for Payload, Go for Stack and Go for Launch. During the next stage, called Go for Payload, the Science Center will install Endeavour's final payload. This delicate operation will take place now through Oct. 25, 2014.

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I happened to be in LA on an overnight last week and got over to see Endeavour for the first time. Their website suggests that visitors call before making plans to see the shuttle due to the aforementioned payload installation.

As it was, I lucked out and had no problem. They had the side hatch open for access to the payload bay through the aft airlock door. Here are a few photos.

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During the next stage, called Go for Payload, the Science Center will install Endeavour's final payload.
What is this payload? It obviously won't be visible with the payload bay doors closed, not that it is large if it's going through the airlock door.

Is it something historic in nature or some type of monitoring equipment maybe?

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The California Science Center is preparing to open Endeavour's payload bay doors to insert the payload. The crew hatch was open in preparation for that.

The payload is historic, has flown in space and is quite large. It also has not been previously displayed in the Oschin pavilion. It will be visible to the public, as CSC plans to leave open one of the payload bay doors when Endeavour goes on vertical display.

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I should add that the crew module hatch was allowing access to the payload bay for the workers, not for the payload itself. There were several other access panels opened on the side of Endeavour as well.

They also have video cameras located forward and aft in the payload bay, as well as the cockpit. These transmit live to a large monitor underneath the ship so visitors can have a look inside.

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Is the payload LDEF?

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No, and last I heard LDEF was reduced to just its metal frame. (I'm not sure its current location is known.)

On edit: I see the California Science Center has now made the payload public:

During the next stage, called Go for Payload, the Science Center will install Endeavour's final payload, a configuration similar to the STS-118 mission, consisting of a flown SPACEHAB and other equipment.
The Spacehab module being installed though, is not the same one that has been on display in the Oschin pavilion.

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LDEF was indeed taken apart. I recall seeing a piece of LDEF mounted to a plaque in Terry Hart's Bedminster, NJ office years ago.

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Endeavour's starboard side payload bay door was opened Wednesday (Oct. 1):

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Go for Payload! Spacehab installed inside space shuttle Endeavour for display

A large piece of space equipment was installed in a space shuttle's cargo bay on Thursday (Oct. 9) for what was very likely the last time in history.

In an event titled "Go for Payload," the California Science Center (CSC) in Los Angeles hoisted a Spacehab module into the open hold of the retired space shuttle Endeavour. The logistics module's addition, together with several other real and replica parts, marked a major milestone towards the center's plans to display the NASA winged orbiter in a vertical, launch-ready configuration.

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The items installed in Endeavour's payload bay:
  • Flown Spacehab (Flight Unit 3). [FU3 flew on STS-79, STS-81, STS-84, STS-86, STS-89, STS-96, STS-101, and STS-106, although always as part of a Double Module, never as a Single Module, which is how the Science Center will show it]

  • Replica External Airlock and Orbiter Docking System

  • Replica Tunnel Adapter (what connects the airlock to the Spacehab to allow the crew to move between them)

  • Replica Shuttle Remote Manipulator System arm (Canadarm) including end effector and elbow camera

  • Replica payload bay cameras (A, B, C, and D - all four corners of the payload bay)

  • More than 7,000 feet of wiring, allowing the Science Center to light the interior of the payload bay, flight deck, and middeck.

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Two orbiters with open payload bays and neither decided to put a GAS canister in it.


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