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Bernasconi
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posted 04-05-2010 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bernasconi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For decades the San Diego Air & Space Museum's Gemini-era space suit has been displayed high on a wall as part of a spacecraft display. Now visitors have a chance to see it up close as a new addition to the spaceflight gallery in its own display case.

kr4mula
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posted 07-15-2010 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kr4mula   Click Here to Email kr4mula     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I somehow missed this earlier...

What information do you have on this particular suit? I'm always curious about the developmental ones.

dfox
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posted 07-15-2010 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dfox   Click Here to Email dfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks like he's missing his head and he's trying to find it!

mikej
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posted 07-15-2010 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mikej   Click Here to Email mikej     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The U.S. Space & Rocket Center displays a similar, if not identical suit with some Project Gemini artifacts. From that context I always thought it was a developmental Gemini suit, but I thumbed through my copy of US Spacesuits, and I couldn't find any pictures of a suit like this in the book at all.

Jay Chladek
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posted 07-16-2010 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking at images in my copy of US Space Gear by Lillian Kozloski, the umbilical attachments on the suit seem to match those of a picture of the G1C suit. I suppose they could also be G2C suits, but those featured umbilicals similar to what were used on the as flown G3C suits from Gemini 3. The G2C and G3C suits look almost the same except the G2s are silver and the G3s white.

kr4mula
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posted 07-16-2010 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kr4mula   Click Here to Email kr4mula     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm pretty sure it's a David Clark G1C, based on the connections and overall architecture. The NASM's "Spacesuits" book doesn't list one of these from their collection in outside hands, and I'm sure there were only a few made, so I'd be interested to hear the story behind this one. I may be going to San Diego this December, so perhaps they can tell me the story in person!

jasonelam
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posted 07-16-2010 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jasonelam   Click Here to Email jasonelam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kr4mula:
I'm pretty sure it's a David Clark G1C, based on the connections and overall architecture.
Here is a David Clark G1C I found online. Connections look like they match so I think you are correct, sir!

Lou Chinal
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posted 07-25-2010 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would be interesting to see if anyone's name was printed on the 'name tag'.

The closest I could find was a G2G that was a prototype made for Shepard. The connectors were different however.

SprocketCur
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posted 03-29-2011 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SprocketCur   Click Here to Email SprocketCur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mikej:
The U.S. Space & Rocket Center displays a similar, if not identical suit with some Project Gemini artifacts.
In case your still following this thread... the suit in the image you posted is most likely a G1C. The only difference being in that the only G1C reference image I could find, there is some gusseting around the waist that is not in the suit at the USSRC.

If anyone in the thread is still interested, we'll be working in that building later this week, and I can check for a tag to find a model and serial number, if it's legible!

Lou Chinal
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posted 03-30-2011 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I'm still following this thread. If you do find out any information perhaps I can call Joe Schmitt. He still has kept his notes.

kr4mula
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posted 03-30-2011 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kr4mula   Click Here to Email kr4mula     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The more suit details we can dig up the better, so please do check and post what you find.

Curator at GSLASM
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posted 01-03-2015 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curator at GSLASM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Greater St Louis Air & Space Museum has a suit like this. (When I figure out how to do so, I'll post some pictures.)

There is an orange tag under the flap in the right armpit with the following information.

B.F. Goodrich Co.
Contract NAS 9-252
Style G-2G
Serial NO. 2
Size LR

heng44
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posted 01-05-2015 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anybody know what type of suit this is? Could this also be an early G1C suit? The photo is dated early 1963.

garymilgrom
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posted 01-05-2015 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where's that from Ed? That's the oddest looking Gemini mockup I've ever seen. Looks like a fridge behind the PLT seat! Is that Elliot See in the CDR seat? And why the EVA sling? Training?

heng44
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posted 01-12-2015 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gary, I have a series of these without captions. I assume this is an early Gemini mockup to check clearances for EVA procedures.

Lou Chinal
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posted 01-13-2015 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have never seen this Gemini mock up before, Gary. Check out the parachute harness, olive drab in color and capewells.

They were doing this test on the cheap.

Curator at GSLASM
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posted 01-21-2015 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curator at GSLASM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A McDonnell (Aircraft) publication from January 1965 titled "Space Simulation Chambers" has a few photographs of G-2G suits, like the one in our collection, being used in tests. One shows a suited MAC pilot climbing into a Gemini cabin mockup in their 11 foot Life Support Laboratory Chamber. Two other photos show a pair of suited MAC pilots entering a Gemini Spacecraft in their 30 foot diameter man-rated chamber.

Additionally, I've noted these suits in some of the photos of "Astronauts" in or standing by the full Gemini mockup.

kr4mula
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posted 01-22-2015 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kr4mula   Click Here to Email kr4mula     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by heng44:
I assume this is an early Gemini mockup to check clearances for EVA procedures.
I'm pretty sure that photo is a David Clark G2C suit. The pic isn't high enough resolution for me to be 100% sure, but it fits the 1963 time period and is nearer in design to the G3C than the G1C we discussed earlier.

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