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spaceychick
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posted 09-16-2008 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceychick   Click Here to Email spaceychick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been a huge space history fan for some time and set my mind that I was going to visit all the manned US ships on display. I have finally accomplished this! I have visited all the Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, and Skylab capsules as well as the Enterprise Shuttle. Finding all the ships was a bit of a challenge (I learned they move around a bit from museum to museum). For anyone else out there interested in doing the same, please visit my website. Although it is a work in progress, it will soon have links to all the museums with ships on display. I'd love to hear your input, and any ideas on other places worth visiting. spaceychick.com

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posted 09-16-2008 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LCDR Scott Schneeweis   Click Here to Email LCDR Scott Schneeweis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats on the site and the very noteworthy acheivement of having visited every U.S. manned spacecraft on display. Anybody who has a Astronaut pin tattooed on their ankle is a true Spaceaholic in my book. Only wish I had a teacher like you while going through school.

Have you visited Jim Gerard's Field Guide to American Spacecraft ...his site offers a pretty good run-down of current locations for almost all US manned spacecraft (and affiliated launch systems) on exhibit..

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Lou Chinal
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posted 09-16-2008 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are all the spacesuits on display next?

-Lou

spaceychick
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posted 09-16-2008 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceychick   Click Here to Email spaceychick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jim Gerard's site was a big influence on my travel, I would have had a heck of a time locating all the ships without the help of his site. I might need to extend my search to also include the unmanned capsules and the remaining LMs. Either way, as a teacher, I will do my best to continue to "spread the word" about our country's space achievements!

Ray Katz
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posted 09-16-2008 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ray Katz   Click Here to Email Ray Katz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Others looking to visit all the flown manned Apollo spacecraft might be interested in a section about it on my website.

This gives the location (and link to Google map), museum hours, phone number... everything you need to plan your visit.

It's less comprehensive than "A Field Guide to American Spacecraft" (which I LOVE), but very useful nonetheless...

I would also note that my favorite LM on display is an early Grumman-built full-scale model which may have been used in training, and is now at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia. It's the only Grumman-built LM that I know of that you can actually climb the steps!

Philip
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posted 09-17-2008 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to collectSPACE Lisa... great spacey missions photo web page.

thump
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posted 09-17-2008 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thump   Click Here to Email thump     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lou Chinal:
Are all the spacesuits on display next?
I can't answer for most of them, but Armstrong's Apollo 11, and White's and McDivitt's Gemini 4 are no longer on exhibit at NASM, and probably won't be, due to condition and historical preservation, for any time to come, if ever...

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posted 09-17-2008 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to cS Lisa! I too wish you were my teacher when I was young. You must be a great mentor to your students. At least they'll leave your class knowing we walked on the Moon.

Do you know about the Young Astronaut Program? If not send me an email.

BTW when you fly in space will you color in your tatoo gold?

Tim

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posted 09-17-2008 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You might also look into applying for becoming a JPL Solar System Ambassador. I think they are soon looking for people for next year.

I applied last year and got the job. You'll get on a the mailing list for all kinds of nifty space stuff that comes in the mail that you can show or give to the students. I've mostly given out things at our club meetings or events like Space Day/Astronomy Day.

Here is my JPL profile -

Tom

Lou Chinal
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posted 09-17-2008 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ray Katz:
I would also note that my favorite LM on display is an early Grumman-built full-scale model which may have been used in training, and is now at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia.
The LM at the Franklin Institute is not a model. It's the flight article that would have been used on Apollo 19. The LM that would have flown on Apollo 18 is at the Cradle of Aviation L.I.C. in New York. I've been in it, and so has Jack Schmitt. He wrote his name inside of it. Now that's an autograph!
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Originally posted by spaceychick:
I have been a huge space history fan for some time and set my mind that I was going to visit all the manned US ships on display. I have finally accomplished this!
Lisa- Congratulations! I've seen most of them. I hope to meet up Apollo 10 in London in a few months.

-Lou

SpaceCat
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posted 09-17-2008 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lou, just this past weekend I was touring all my old haunts of nearly 6 decades via "Google Earth" and The Franklin Institute was definitely one of them. There is a LM sitting out on their 'front lawn,' is that the one?

If so, I'm surprised they let it sit out there exposed to the elements and the city.

space4u
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posted 09-17-2008 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for space4u   Click Here to Email space4u     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to collectSPACE Lisa! I enjoyed your website. Question: where was the photo taken of you in the space capsule -- Apollo mockup -- I presume? Also check out the International Women's Air & Space Museum sometime. I am the space advisor for IWASM.

Enjoy--Marcy

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posted 09-17-2008 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whizzospace   Click Here to Email Whizzospace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lisa - Wonderful Web site. Congrats on completing a most noble space enthusiast quest. Some of us are struggling to attain the same great goal.

You're the "dream teacher" we all wish we'd had.

John W
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spaceychick
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posted 09-18-2008 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceychick   Click Here to Email spaceychick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to all of you for the welcomes, positive comments, and great input on vacation and teaching ideas. I have been checking the collectSPACE site for years, but finally decided to become more active in the forums.

Marcy -- the picture of me in the Apollo capsule was taken at the Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville.

As far as being a "dream teacher" I think some of my teen age students might disagree, but I do teach quite an extensive unit on the Space Race in my Earth Science class! When my students go on to US History the following year, I always get e-mails from their teachers surprised on my students' knowledge of the Cold War Era. I am doing my part to create a new generation of space "crazies"!

Lisa

FFrench
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posted 09-18-2008 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lisa,

One little correction to your site - Apollo 9 is not in Los Angeles - it (and the photo you took) is in San Diego...

Aztecdoug
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posted 09-18-2008 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aztecdoug   Click Here to Email Aztecdoug     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is really cool... I finally got off my duff this past weekend to visit the California Science Center to see ASTP, Gemini 11 and MR-2. I guess that brings my Apollo count up to... 4... 8, 9, 11 and ASTP, but I have seen Gumdrop in two different locations.

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spaceychick
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posted 09-19-2008 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceychick   Click Here to Email spaceychick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do I have Apollo 9 labeled wrong? Oops! Of course it is San Diego, one of my favorite cities as a matter of facts (love those Pandas). I'll fix it -- Thanks

Lisa
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FFrench
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posted 09-19-2008 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Lisa - next time you are in town, let us know and we'll give you the behind-the-scenes space tour...

Lou Chinal
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posted 09-19-2008 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SpaceCat:
There is a LM sitting out on their 'front lawn,' is that the one?
As far as I know it's the real thing. I find it hard to belive it's outside also. The people at Cradle of Aviation (Josh Stoff) told me that's where it was shipped off to. They didn't have a building big enough to fit a Lunar Module into.

If you could find out any more info. about it, let me know.

-Lou

Ray Katz
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posted 10-03-2008 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ray Katz   Click Here to Email Ray Katz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Franklin Institute's LM is, in fact, outside. It's well maintained. My impression (and I've talked w/people at the Franklin) is that it was a Grumman-built full-sized model used for early development...fitting in electronics, shielding, etc.

Not only is it outside, but you can actually climb the steps! (the hatch is sealed, however...)

spacecraft guy
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posted 10-09-2008 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecraft guy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by thump:
I can't answer for most of them, but Armstrong's Apollo 11, and White's and McDivitt's Gemini 4 are no longer on exhibit at NASM, and probably won't be, due to condition and historical preservation, for any time to come, if ever...
Remember seeing a segment of a TV program about the curator at the NASM responsible for the care and preservation of the Apollo mission spacesuits - they were stored laid out flat on chrome metal shelving units like you could get at your local Costco.

The deterioration of the rubber in Mike Collins' Apollo 11 suit was shown, and to my amazement they did a segment with Buzz Aldrin interacting with his Apollo 11 suit. Out in the open, not wearing any protective garment and under normal room light.

Considering that his suit and Armstrong's were displayed at the NASM in their own special unit under very low lighting for years I thought that if someone was ever going to interact with them it would be in a similar setting, and wearing some sort of bunny suit to prevent contamination or deterioration.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-09-2008 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by spacecraft guy:
...they were stored laid out flat on chrome metal shelving units like you could get at your local Costco.
I've seen the documentary you mention and have been in that same vault, which is environmentally controlled, and any materials that touch the spacesuits are of archival quality. Aldrin wore gloves, as has everyone who interacts directly with the suits. The curator literally wrote the book (coming soon) on spacesuits and their preservation.

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posted 10-16-2008 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecraft guy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
The curator literally wrote the book (coming soon) on spacesuits and their preservation.
Thanks for your post! That's a book I'll buy, can you give any further information on it and when it would be available?

I'm fascinated by the Apollo and Shuttle EMU suits - I would have loved to get the chance to visit that vault.

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posted 10-16-2008 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Details for the book will be forthcoming soon to the Publications and Multimedia forum, including some previews of the outstanding (new) photography that will grace its pages.

I'll also be sharing my own photography from inside the vault as part of a preview article.

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