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ApolloAlex
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posted February 01, 2010 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ApolloAlex   Click Here to Email ApolloAlex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I am currently planning my family's next trip to Florida...
Just posted a pic I took in La Fiesta, a little bit dark but a great place nevertheless.

spaceman1961
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posted July 23, 2010 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceman1961     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just in Cocoa Beach in May for the Atlantis launch. I stayed at the Oceans Landing Resort, which once was the Atlantis Beach Lodge. Defintely still a 60s vibe to the place. Right next door was a empty building that appeared to have once been the main lobby for the Starlite Motel. It had the same roof canopy with the elongated points I've seen in old postcards of the Starlite.

I've been collecting old postcards of these great motels on eBay, and if I can find out how to post some scans, I will do so.

drscoop
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posted October 06, 2010 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for drscoop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like I'm off to Orlando with work next year and I plan to do an extra 2 days to see the old Mercury/Gemini stuff, on the "Canaveral: Now and Then" tour out of KSC.

I've been following this thread for a little while, and have been doing some more digging, to try to place some of the motels discussed here, and their history and evolution. I thought I would post back my findings, in case they were of interest or use to anyone else. As far as possible, the details below have come from original published sources (books/newspapers/reports/memoirs etc) and not from hearsay or speculation on the web, though that has been very helpful in pointing me in (mostly!) the right direction.

Any errors or omissions are my fault; factual corrections and comments would be welcome to make this as accurate as possible for anyone else trying to track down historical places to stay around Cocoa Beach.

The old Holiday Inn, as managed by Henri Landwirth, now appears to be the International Palms resort, on A1A.

Across the road is the La Quinta, which used to be Cape Colony, with which the original Mercury 7 astonauts were involved. There is a suggestion that this site used to be the old, original Holiday Inn but there was insuffcient space to expand so they sold up and moved across the street, making the original motel available for purchase by the Original 7. However, a book on the history of Cocoa Beach suggests the Cape Colony was a new build, at the time the largest motel in the area, casting doubt on the above suggestion. Also, there is suggestion is that the Original 7 planned to invest the money paid by Life Magazine for their exclusive stories in this motel, but this was frowned upon by the upper echelons of management at NASA. The above-mentioned book suggests the Mercury 7 were forced out of part-ownership of the motel before construction was completed. Again, this conflicts with reports of the Original 7 staying there whilst still owners.

Trying to find definitive evidence as to which account is correct and the timelines has been complicated. However, I came across this, in Wally Schirra's 2003 book: "Leo DeOrsey had proposed to us that we build a motel in Cocoa Beach... Henri Landwirth, also a part-owner, quit his job at the Holiday Inn to become the manager. We named the motel the Cape Colony Inn. ... The motel didn't do as well as we hoped and Leo suggested we sell... End of story, almost. Henri had to leave Cocoa Beach because of a no-compete clause in the contract to sell the Cape Colony. He and John Glenn later became partners and today they own two very profitable Holiday Inns adjacent to Disney World in Orlando.". That would appear to clear that one up...

As I understand it, the hotel and pool area have been altered and updated but the basic building has remained largely unchanged since the Mercury days and the upper apartment section was reputedly the home of the families of the Mercury 7 while they were in town for the launches. Next door (now a beach shop?) appears to have been the office building complex that became a fully functional press suite.

Next to the Holiday Inn, to the south, is the Ocean's Landings Resort; this used to be the The old Atlantis Beach Lodge. Before this, the Atlantis Beach Lodge was the Carriage House Motel and before this, was the Ramada, famous particularly for Wolfie's Deli, home of the infamous Gemini III Corned Beef and Pickle on Rye sandwich.... Other sites suggest the Ramada was subsumed by the Holiday Inn on expansion but from what I've read, pulling together various pieces and threads, I think the above is more probable unless anyone has evidence to the contrary?

The fourth motel often debated in discussions around early space program lodgings was the original Hilton at Cape Canaveral. Most sites list this as demolished, and confirming the original location hasn't been straightforward. However, from a book on Cape Canaveral it appears that the Cape Canaveral Hilton was not demolished, but acquired by Dr Carl McIntire. As far as I can make out, he moved his bible college (Shelton College) there for a while and re-launched as the “Gateway to the Stars, the Bible Conference and Freedom Center". The book notes that, after the end of the Apollo Program ended, real estate prices crashed and the site was picked up fairly cheaply; other sources state the site was acquired in 1971 as the program was winding down. The college itself (at the Cape site) closed in 1992. Archived documents give the address of the center as 8701 Astronaut Boulevard, Cape Canaveral. This is now the site of the Radisson Resort at the Port. I have no evidence if this is the original building but the site seems plausible. Certainly the current appearance of the area fits with the description from a former student who describes "a residential neighborhood filled with split-levels, basketball hoops and two car garages". Mention is made of the "Under the Stars" hotel; I'm unsure as to whether this is what the Hilton became before the buy-out, or what the college became after it closed in 1992. I have also found a second reference confirming the Radission as the location of the Cape Hilton in a site featuring Cocoa Beach trivia.

Some other motels from the same era:

The Satellite Motel (home of the apparently oft-frequented Pillow Talk Lounge) with it's famous Globe sign has now gone, having been demolished. The site is now, as far as I can tell, occupied by the Resort at Cocoa Beach.

The Starlight motel was the first major motel to be built at Cocoa Beach, built in 1956. I believe this was/is next to what is now the Oceans Beach Resort mentioned above. I am working on pinning down the exact location. This appears to be where Henri Landwirth first got a job as a motel manager in Cocoa Beach. I note the recent comments of the poster above and would welcome clarification on which empty building was being referred to...

Silver Sands motel appears to be still in existence at 225 N Atlantic Avenue though I can't confirm with certainty yet if this is the original site/building. The Sea Aire motel, from the same area, also seems to be in existence at the original location, at 181 N Atlantic Avenue.

The Apollo motel is now a Best Western, at 5600 N Atlantic Ave. The Durango steakhouse in the same area used to be the Mousetrap Restaurant and Bar, which was a frequent haunt of the NASA staff. Again, I presume this is the original building (rather than a new site or simply re-use of the name) but have yet to confirm this. The location of the Apollo would indicate that the Apollo motel and the Polaris motel, also mentioned in these discussions, were actually one and the same, during different eras.

Finally, the Sea Missile Motel appears to have been located at the corner of Cocoa Beach Causeway and A1A, now the site of the CVS opposite Ron Jon's surf shop.

If I find more information, or receive corrections, I will try to keep this updated and as correct as possible. Hope someone finds it useful.

spaceman1961
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posted October 11, 2010 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceman1961     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your research into the Cocoa Beach motels. I am the poster who mentioned the abandoned building next door to the Ocean Landings Resort that I believe was the lobby to the Starlite Motel. I actually just got back from another trip to Cocoa Beach and I again stayed at the Ocean Landings. The abandoned building I refered to is immediately south of the Ocean Landings lobby and connected to it by a driveway. If you do a search on Google Maps for 900 N Atlantic Ave and click on the street view, it is the building with the large brown roof. It appears that at some point in time the Starlite was "absorbed" by what is now the Ocean Landings as it is all one large property. The abandoned building/Starlite lobby building was "updated" with the brown shingle roof and stone columns some time ago, but the basic shape of the roof canopy, with its elongated points at the corners, is still evident.

In August I stayed at the Sea Aire Motel. It is still run by the same family who built it in the early 1950's. I chatted with Gary, the manager who is the grandson of the original owner(s). One of the interesting things he told me that was that Werner Von Braun stayed in Room 10 - a fact apparently well known to German tourists, who Gary said seek out the room for that reason.

I have also continued collecting postcards of the motels from this era, and came across two places I had never heard mentioned. The first is Crossway Motor Inn, 3901 N. Atlantic Ave. Today, a Comfort Inn is located there, which appears to be a completely new building, not a remodel of the Crossway. The second is the Bal-Ray. There is no address listed, but the card says it is (was) "directly on the beach" and "close to the shopping district", which may mean "downtown" Cocoa Beach.

spaceman1961
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posted October 11, 2010 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceman1961     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, Gary at the Sea Aire told me the Silver Sands was "right down the street" from them (pointing north) and that it had been mismanaged then torn down; there is a condo building there now called Ocean Oasis, built in 2004.

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posted November 04, 2010 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dsenechal   Click Here to Email dsenechal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another '60's era hotel is/was the Ocean Suites Hotel, 5500 Ocean Blvd, Cocoa Beach. When I was doing work in the area back in the 1990's, I made it a point to stay there. It may no longer exist, and I'm not sure if that was the original name, but the hotel was definitely of the M-G-A era. It even had vintage furnishings, as I recall, which were cool to see but a little creepy to sleep on.

jcook
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posted March 09, 2011 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jcook   Click Here to Email jcook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, all! I'm doing a historical preservation project on the Holiday Inn Cocoa Beach (now the International Palms), once managed by Henri Landwirth. I know the Mercury 7 astronauts frequented this hotel. Does anyone have any stories or pictures of this hotel from the 1960s?

I have a few good sources but would like to enhance the richness of my research. I've already come across some very amusing anecdotes, one concerning a boat in the swimming pool. (I would love to know more about that, by the way.)

My ultimate goal is to preserve locations that remember the lives of those who were seminal in the development of Florida's space coast. If anyone has anything they would like to share, it would be very much appreciated.

Jennifer

golddog
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posted March 12, 2011 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for golddog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if I remember correctly, the boat incident was attributed to Gordon Cooper. He got a motor boat put in the pool as a joke, and they sat around drinking and fishing from it

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posted March 12, 2011 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arjuna   Click Here to Email arjuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In regards to the original Hilton at Cape Canaveral mentioned above, I have no first-hand knowledge as I was too young at the time and lived in Texas, but Al Worden made a remark at the Apollo 14 Gala on Jan. 29, 2011 about "the old Hilton". The cocktail reception for the Gala was held at the Radisson Resort at the Port, and in opening remarks Worden stated that this was the old Hilton, and that the room we were in (I think it was the Montego Room) used to be the bar. He mentioned that after the Hilton sold it, it was used by a bible study group, and how that was especially ironic if they only had known the good times they had there back in the day. I might be misremembering some details, but that was the gist.

That said, the room layout at the Radisson didn't look like what I think of as a typical Hilton layout at all - how the rooms are laid out reminds me more of a Holiday Inn sort of set up, but I wasn't around during that time so who am I to say. If Worden said so, his word is definitely better than mine. Hopefully others who were at the event can chime in and add to my (quite possibly incomplete) recollection of his remarks.

Ken Havekotte
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posted March 12, 2011 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I, too, recall Worden's remarks during the Apollo 14 anniversary gala at the Port's Radisson Resort more than 6 weeks ago.

In fact, it was the Cape Kennedy Hilton in Cape Canaveral that was in the location area of the now-Radisson during the Apollo era.

Just north, or next door, of the "old Hilton" was Camelot Restaurant. Right across the street from the Hilton was the NASA Apollo News Center where media types all across the world would register for an Apollo launch coverage.

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posted March 12, 2011 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arjuna   Click Here to Email arjuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Ken. Just to clarify, the Cape Kennedy Hilton later became what is now the Radisson Resort at the Port. But is the old Hilton building structure mostly the same, or was the Hilton torn down and a new structure put in the same location?

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posted March 12, 2011 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
During the Apollo era, the Cape Kennedy Hilton was the only far-north motel resort adjacent to Port Canaveral.

The now-Radisson Resort at the Port is of the same location as the old Hilton was on.

Yes, indeed, just about all the old Hilton foundations and structures were completely re-built. The resort's convention center, if I recall, still maintains a similar structure in use today.

I think the bar that Worden made reference to at the old Hilton was the Pieces of Eight Lounge near the motor inn's romantic Gaucho Steak Room.

During the Cape/Hilton days, the Norm Schooping Trio, with Norm at the piano, was one of the most popular Space Coast beach entertainment spots.

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posted June 23, 2011 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for drscoop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After all the help off here planning my trip to the area, it seems only fair to post some photos in return , in case they're of interest. Comments welcome...

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