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MCroft04
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posted 11-17-2009 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
...it is designed with a positive air flow
Thanks Robert. The person who emailed me didn't mention the positive air flow.

moorouge
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posted 11-17-2009 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amanda Young's book "Spacesuits" lists the location of the Apollo suits, including which one's are missing.

My understanding, from researching the case of Aldrin's missing suit, is that despite what labels may say many of those on display are specially built for that purpose. The only way to be absolutely certain of what you are looking at is to check the serial number.

MCroft04
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posted 11-17-2009 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So are you saying that Aldrin's suit at the National Air and Space Museum is not really the one he wore on the lunar surface? Dave Scott's? Gene Cernan's? Alan Bean's?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 11-17-2009 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All the flown Apollo spacesuits are accounted for; Aldrin's suit as well as the others on display at the National Air and Space Museum (and loaned and displayed elsewhere) are the genuine articles.

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 01-07-2015 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While looking through this thread I could not help but notice again the gloves in the images posted by Scott. Wrapped in polythene is not good or accepted practice from an archival standpoint.

The latex in the gloves off-gas as they age and this gas is "corrosive" to the the point it hastens their deterioration.

I just hope their storage has changed since the photo was taken.

Stafford Air&Space
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posted 01-08-2015 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stafford Air&Space   Click Here to Email Stafford Air&Space     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have General Stafford's flown Apollo 10 suit on display.

328KF
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posted 08-19-2015 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 328KF   Click Here to Email 328KF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know the current whereabouts of Charlie Duke's flown suit? I'm passing through Columbia SC shortly and was thinking of stopping to have a look.

p51
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A Field Guide to American Spacecraft has some reasonably accurate locations for most of these suits.

Over the years, I've seen most of the Apollo spacesuits in museums in the U.S. I have dozens of photos saved but few ready to post online. I've seen one on display at the Huntsville center several times, in the Davidson building with the Saturn V, you can reach out and touch it. I'd love to know which one it is.

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posted 03-07-2016 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonspace   Click Here to Email jonspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was at the University of Maryland recently and this spacesuit (with a "Bean" name tag) was being used for research. It looks like a training suit? One of the graduate students told me they use it for multiple research projects and that it has been there for decades.

mode1charlie
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posted 04-29-2018 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reviving an old thread.

I'm reading Robert Kurson's book "Rocket Men" and noted his mention that Anders put a gouge in his bubble helmet during the rather violent staging of the S-IC:

By instinct, Anders threw up his hand in front of his face to prevent being catapulted through the instrument panel, but by that time, the five J-2 engines of the second stage had kicked in and the acceleration threw Anders's outstretched hand back so hard against his head that the wrist ring on his glove carved a gouge in his helmet.
Apparently Borman and Lovell did the same thing, and so their pressure helmets also had gouges. Are any of those bubble helmets on display? It would be interesting to see those gouges.

TLIGuy
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posted 04-30-2018 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TLIGuy   Click Here to Email TLIGuy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read the same passage in the book as well and wondered the same thing.

I do not know if any of the three are on public display but the National Air and Space Museum online collection shows all three helmets with multiple images of each bubble helmet from different angles. I was unable to clearly see the impact area Anders was referring to.

GACspaceguy
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posted 04-30-2018 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have listened to the book as well. I went out to the Smithsonian site and snagged the photo, added some contrast and I believe one of the two marks pointed out could be the damage.

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 04-30-2018 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One thing is clear from the NASM on line helmet images. Borman's helmet famously was custom made because he had a particularly large head. The difference is subtle but evident in the online images.

MrSpace86
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posted 10-16-2018 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kansas City's Union Station Instagram page posted Donn Eisele's flown Apollo 7 spacesuit. Before I make the trip out there, I would like to confirm that it is the actual flown spacesuit.

Why am I doubting what Union Station is posting? Well, it seems like the suit is missing some components. Compare it to the official photos from the National Air and Space Museum. Thoughts?

Space fans! When you head to the Extreme Screen to experience epic space adventure "First Man" at KC's biggest screen, you'll also get the rare opportunity to see and snap a photo with a real spacesuit and helmet worn on the Apollo 7 mission!

The spacesuit currently on display in the Extreme Screen Theatre lobby was made for and worn by astronaut Donn Eisele, Senior Pilot of the Apollo 7 mission in October, 1968...

MrSpace86
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posted 10-20-2018 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrSpace86   Click Here to Email MrSpace86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually just got home from seeing the suit and it is missing the American flag on the left arm. Furthermore, the helmet the National Air and Space Museum has in their collection does not match what was on display at all.

I tried talking to people at Union Station and no one had a clue on what I was even saying. I was surprised security didn't escort me out!


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