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Jay Chladek
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posted 08-13-2007 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't see it, so I thought I would put in a plug for a museum near where I like that has some space artifacts on display.

The museum is known as the Strategic Air and Space Museum and it is located off Interstate 80 at exit 426, midway between Omaha and Lincoln, Nebraska. The museum first started life as the Strategic Air Command (SAC) museum in Bellevue, NE, next to Offutt AFB, but over 10 years ago it was moved to the current facility located just south of Ashland, NE.

There isn't much civilian stuff on display yet, but we do have an extensive collection of aircraft and artifacts from the Cold War on display. Some of the more noteable space related artifacts include:

A full size Atlas ICBM (replica built by Convair for SAC, but it looks real)

Thor IRBM
Blue Scout missile
B-52B Stratofortress
B-36
B-57 Canberra
B-1A
SR-71 Blackbird
Some reentry heat shields and nose cones for other ICBMs.
A couple satellites associated with detecting Soviet atomic bomb tests
Apollo block 1 capsule Spacecraft 009 (thanks for clarification) (the first block 1 capsule to be launched suborbital on SA-201)

There are numerous other military and cold war related aircraft and artifacts on display as well, but the above list showcases those that might have the most interest among space lovers.

This particular Apollo capsule that we have was used in a land landing drop test after SA-201, where it got a big crack at the base of the heatshield. The title of the capsule was signed over to the University of Nebraska in Lincoln in the early 1970s and as such it is one of the few space capsules that the Smithsonian has no jurestiction over. Because of that, for years the capsule was displayed outdoors on the UNL grounds and the Nebraska winters were not kind to it.

At one time, a grass roots campaign tried to get the capsule traded to the Cosmosphere, but that was shot down by the UN board of regents. The capsule was locked away in a storage shed until about 1998 when an anonymous donor contributed the funds needed to restore the capsule to something resembling its former glory. Shortly after the work was done, it was put on display in the SAC museum's current location.

Another reason I bring this up is there is one space related exhibit that will be starting up on September 29, 2006 to celebrate the accomplishments of Nebraska's first astronaut and Ashland, NE native Clayton Anderson. The exhibit will run from September to March I believe and I am working on a shuttle model for the exhibit. Some NASA supplied artifacts will be on display with the exhibit, so it should be a nice crowd draw.

In other news, former Shuttle 3 mission veteran Kevin P. Chilton, now a four star general in the USAF and current head of US Space Command is on the president's short list to assume command of Stratcom at Offutt AFB when our current CO heads off to DC for a Joint Chiefs job. If this does go through, his presence in the region might also help to bring along some additional space related displays in the not too distant future. After the success of the Liberty Bell 7 traveling exhibit late in 2005, the SASM staff knows that space exhibits are a big draw and they will probably work to add more to the museum's permanent collection and bring in additional traveling ones.

For those looking to visit, I would say if you had a choice between the Cosmosphere and here, I would say go to Hutchinson as the first priority. But if you can, go ahead and stop up here if your travels take you to our area. The facility is big and constantly being improved. Given time I think it might make an excellent draw for space lovers everywhere.

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posted 08-15-2007 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Choose2Go   Click Here to Email Choose2Go     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been to the old museum: I look forward to visiting the new one. I was sure intrigued by the Goblin! And a point of correction, it is CM-009 on display. Visit A Field Guide To American Spacecraft for a link to the story from the University newspaper about its restoration. BTW, any recent images you would like to share?

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posted 08-15-2007 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sy Liebergot   Click Here to Email Sy Liebergot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, that's the AS-201 CM, all right. I had the pleasure to see it at the museum this past May, where I lectured. The AS-201 was my first mission as a flight controller. We ran 144 simulations of that 38 minute lob downrange. I tell about the "unscrub" in my book.

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Jay Chladek
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posted 08-17-2007 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys (and thanks again Sy for coming out to visit our little stretch of the country). I made the correction C2G. I knew it was 009, but I guess I was getting a little James Bond influence as I typed this earlier.

Anyway, concerning photos I do have a few, although they aren't really that much different from the ones already on the Field Guide site (a couple of my photos are floating around on one of the sites that is dedicated to stuff like this, assuming it is still up). Still, I will do some digging for photos I shot of areas like the parachute section (which is quite different from Block 2 spacecraft).

A buddy of mine did manage to shoot photos inside the capsule when it was at Duncan Aviation undergoing its restoration about 9 years ago and it was interesting seeing the equipment in there. There was no full instrument panel, just a simplified board with what looked like circuit breakers and some other simple switches. There were no crew couches either, so the aft bay was fully exposed. Looking at the thing, it didn't seem that much different internally from the unfinished Block 2 CSM that Houston has on its Saturn V. I wish I had copies of these photos I saw, but they were taken with a film camera and haven't been scanned into a computer yet. Plus my buddy is now living in San Diego, so it is a bit difficult to head down to his place and ask to borrow the pictures.

When the new Clayton Anderson exhibit opens up in September, I will be shooting more then a few pictures of it and post those when I can.

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posted 08-17-2007 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dtemple   Click Here to Email dtemple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sy Liebergot:
Yep, that's the AS-201 CM, all right. I had the pleasure to see it at the museum this past May, where I lectured. The AS-201 was my first mission as a flight controller. We ran 144 simulations of that 38 minute lob downrange. I tell about the "unscrub" in my book.
I don't believe this is CM 009 and I don't believe CM 011 is on the USS Hornet. Somehow their identifications have been reversed. CM 009 had the narrow side windows while CM 011 had the square style windows as did all others from that point including block 2 CMs. I have photos of the recovery of 009 and it clearly has the narrow style windows. In fact, I read somewhere long ago that NASA had the windows made larger - wish I could remember what publication it was (old Aviation Week maybe). Unless the two spacecraft have their parts mixed then their IDs are not correct. (Where is the serial number plate attached?) I covered this topic before on another thread and someone had additional photos of 009 that were even better than mine. Perhaps Ed Hengeveld can help on this one.

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posted 08-18-2007 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Choose2Go   Click Here to Email Choose2Go     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dtemple:
I don't believe this is CM 009 and I don't believe CM 011 is on the USS Hornet. Somehow their identifications have been reversed...

Very interesting observation here. This shoud be something that could be resolved with little more detective work. Have you contacted either museum with this information? Do you mind if I do? (I don't want to push myself in on any ongoing work you are doing)

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posted 08-18-2007 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sy Liebergot   Click Here to Email Sy Liebergot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scroll down to AS-201 pix.

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posted 08-18-2007 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dtemple   Click Here to Email dtemple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Choose2Go:
Have you contacted either museum with this information?
I did contact the NASM a few years ago about my doubt but never received any reply. One theory I had was that 009 and 011 had their parts mixed. The spacecraft were disassembled for post-flight inspection then reassembled and used (009 at least) for land impact tests. Perhaps the forward heatshield and inner pressure shell or cabin were combined from these two CMs but I doubt it. One would have the inner pressure shell with the square type windows while the outer shell or forward heatshield of the other would have the narrow openings and vice versa. I don't know if there would be a fit problem associated with such a combination or not, nor do I really believe this happened. Something is absolutely amiss with these two CMs.

Take a look at these photos of this CM that is supposed to be 011. Note the narrow side windows (windows fartherest from the hatch). This is a characteristic of CM 009 as well as CM 007 and CM 002. CM 008 had the larger side windows as did 012, 014, 017, 020, and all block 2 CMs.

Also, take a look at this image - it shows 011 awaiting recovery.

The link Mr. Liebergot posted shows a good view of 009 but not in hi-res. There is a cSpace member (Ed Hengeveld I think) who has this view or a similar one. It was posted on here at one time. I have two original NASA-issued press photos showing the recovery of 009 and the CM has the small side windows. However, I have seen a photo that reportedly showed 009 at North American (pre-flight) but that CM had the large windows. My belief is that this one was mislabeled or was meant to be representative of 009. The photo is on the same link as Mr. Liebergot provided. As for the two window sizes, I believe the smaller ones were roughly (and I mean roughly) about 5 inches wide and 8 inches high while the large type was about 10x10. I may be off substantially on these dimensions but they serve to illustrate exactly what my point is regarding these windows.

Jay Chladek
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posted 08-19-2007 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a feeling this discussion would rear its head as you guys aren't the first to bring it up. I noticed it as well when I began researching 009 several years ago in an attempt to restart the grass roots campaign to get UNL to give it up. On the same day I got copies of the literature mailed to me from the last guy who organized similar campaigns, the capsule got the funds to be restored. I did discuss it with some collegues of mine on the Space Modeling Yahoo group circa 1998 or so.

From what I know based on the Aviation Week articles I read (printed from microfiche and film records), 009 entered something of an uncontrolled tumble recovery, so the heat shield did get a bit scorched in spots on the sides. Given that it was also the first Apollo capsule to fly, I imagine that the outer shell heat shield was removed for analysis and replaced with one featuring the larger windows in order to do the land impact tests as that was more representative of the Block 2 configuration. There is footage of it on one NASA documentary video as the thing did something of a front flip after initial impact, resulting in a crack on the backside of the heat shield when the thing landed hard on the second pass.

The biggest question mark though is if the inner pressure vessel on 009 had small side windows or larger ones as we know the heat shield used on the flight had the small windows (hence the debate). Spacecraft 011 certainly had larger windows, outer and inner based on the photos I saw of it during recovery. Today 009 has larger side windows on the inner pressure vessel as well as the heat shield. Those photos of 011 at Dulles are interesting to say the least. She is a lot more stripped down then 009 was based on the pictures I saw showing the simplified panel setup. I do admit there is something a bit strange about this.

I have no idea if a capsule might have been built with larger windows on the pressure module and small ones on the heat shield. Seeing footage of how they were constructed though, it doesn't look like such a configuration would be impossible as the different structures were built in parallel to one another. The exterior I know didn't fly into space, but I am certain the interior did (either all or in part). But the only way to really trace that would be to have access to NAA records from that time and back check from serial numbers of components found on the capsule, or find records that show what changes might have been made post flight.

Given the meticulous paper trails that tended to be kept about stuff like this though (even in those days before the Apollo 1 fire) I do believe this is 009, or it has enough of 009's structure in it to still warrant being called 009 as the title signed over from NASA to UNL circa 1974 or so calls it as such. The Strategic Air and Space Museum has a copy of everything I had in their records, so as far as they know it is 009. Only way we will know for certain is to dig deeper into the past from before the time SASM and the Smithsonian got them.

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posted 08-19-2007 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dtemple   Click Here to Email dtemple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Given the meticulous paper trails that tended to be kept about stuff like this though (even in those days before the Apollo 1 fire) I do believe this is 009, or it has enough of 009's structure in it to still warrant being called 009 as the title signed over from NASA to UNL circa 1974 or so calls it as such.
So what became of 009's forward heatshield? Where are the records? I would expect the detailed records of 009's history would be long lost by now.
My guess is that the forward heatshield may have been replaced with one from a canceled block 1 CM such as 015. I recall reading about some canceled command modules so perhaps some had already been partially fabricated. SM 015 was built (now part of the Saturn V display at KSC) so I assume there must have been a CM 015 planned especially since there was skip from 014 to 017. Another possibility perhaps is the heatshield from 014 replaced the one from 009. It was dismantled for the Apollo 1 fire investigation and afterwards was sent back to NAA. Still another possible explanation is that the forward heatshield on 009 is that of 011 and vice versa.

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posted 08-20-2007 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One thing I know for certain is that the heatshield currently on 009 (be it the real 009 or a remarked 011) is not one that has flown in space. Reason I say that is I saw color pictures of the thing when it was moved from the storage shed at UNL to Duncan aviation. In that shed was some fertilizer and the stuff played havoc with the white paint on the heat shield, wearing it down in several spots to where the epoxy resin coloring was visible and I saw no black stain markings characteristic of a reentry whatsoever. Today the entire capsule has been painted in some sort of a white glossy paint (probably Imron or some other Polyurethane or Epoxy paint), so it is impossible to see the coloring underneath. It is probably not the 014 heatshield since I believe the land impact test took place before the Apollo 1 fire and investigation.

As for records, I know NASA does still keep a lot of records that are still not considered public domain. The original paper records are probably gone, but many of them had been put on microfiche in the mid 1990s from guys I know who worked in record keeping. What I meant to say in my original comment was that the paper trail was a lot better back in 1974 when the capsule ownership for 009 got transfered to UNL. So at the time the title was signed over, it was known as 009 and probably had documents to backup that it was indeed 009. I wish spacecraft had data plates on them like aircraft, as it makes tracking this stuff down SOO much easier.

Granted something indeed could have slipped through the cracks as it were, but I did come across one tidbit from a buddy several years ago on the Yahoo Space Modelers group which stated that it was 009 used for a land impact test, not 011. I don't have that email anymore though. It seems to me that when NAA and NASA had some actual capsules at their disposal, they began using them in tests similar to what the boiler plates were used for. But rather then using the capsule as a whole, equipment swap outs and changes for the tests were the order of the day, hence possible heat shield changes.

So to all space collectors out there, come to the Strategic Air and Space Museum to see the most controversial capsule on display!!!

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Originally posted by Jay Chladek:
Another reason I bring this up is there is one space related exhibit that will be starting up on September 29, 2006 to celebrate the accomplishments of Nebraska's first astronaut and Ashland, NE native Clayton Anderson.
From the museum's website:
Clayton Anderson- Heartland Astronaut
September 29, 2007- January 6, 2008

Clayton Anderson - Heartland Astronaut tells the story of Nebraska's first Astronaut. Born in Omaha and raised just minutes from the Strategic Air & Space Museum in Ashland, Anderson is assigned to the Expedition 15 crew and will spend 4-6 months onboard the International Space Station. He will launch to the station aboard Shuttle Atlantis with the crew of the STS-117, targeted for launch in June 2007, and will return to earth aboard Shuttle Discovery on mission STS-120.

From Ashland to outer-space, Anderson's story is an inspiration to all. The Clayton Anderson - Heartland Astronaut exhibit displays Anderson's early childhood through High School in Ashland including his involvement in athletics and music, and his love for family and space. Anderson's love for music and athletics continued as he went on to college at Hastings College in Hastings, Nebraska for his bachelor of science in physics, and on to Iowa State University where he received his master of science degree in Aerospace Engineering.

The exhibit chronicles Anderson's NASA career from working in the Mission Planning and Analysis Division through his selection and initial training in the Astronaut Program. Some highlights of Anderson's time at NASA include his Star City Training in Russia. His journals will be the resource and the underlying theme will focus on the international partnerships behind the space station. Another highlight will be his training aboard NEEMO, an acronym for NASA Extreme Environment Mission Operations, a NASA program for studying human survival in the Aquarius underwater laboratory in preparation for future space exploration.

Visitors will learn all about the place Clayton Anderson will call home for 4- 6 months, the International Space Station (ISS). They will learn about the design and construction of the ISS, as well as the separate components of the station and how the project is planned. There are several interactive components of this exhibit, including one that will allow visitors to use a computer program to explore the space station and the opportunity to design their own space station.

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Thanks for the posting Robert! BTW, I got an additional email from these guys with the following information:

Presentation By Smithsonian Curator Roger Launius- September 29

At 11am, Saturday, September 29, Roger Launius, Smithsonian Curator in the Division of Space History at the National Air and Space Museum will speak to the public. His talk will be “Space: Journeying Toward the Future,” and will discuss spaceflight history and what might be expected in the next fifty years. To read about Roger and his interesting career, go to the Events section of the Museum website.

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On Sept. 8th I had the opportunity to visit the Strategic Air Command Museum in Ashland, NE and took several photos of Apollo CM 009. Photos of the spacecraft on the web appeared to show that the aft heatshield did not fit the forward heatshield or outer shell. My conclusion is that a fiberglass shell was fitted to "009" which explains why the aft heatshield does not fit. The shell is roughly .75 to 1-inch thick and now has a few cracks forming in it. This also explains the discrepancy between recovery photos and current ones in which the side windows differ. The interior cannot be viewed directly; however, placing my digital camera with the flash on against the hatch window provided some interesting results.

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Strategic Air & Space Museum has now been added to the website Museum of Space Travel.

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