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posted 04-12-2025 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The Saturn V carrying the Skylab space station is photographed at Launch Pad 39A shortly after rollout from the VAB on April 16, 1973. In the distance at Pad 39B is the Saturn IB with Skylab 2, surrounded by the Mobile Service Structure.

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posted 04-12-2025 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Headshot   Click Here to Email Headshot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After seeing 12 Apollo/Saturn V combinations prior to Skylab, I still find this configuration jarring.

This is a picture that I have not seen before, but when I think about it, I probably have only seen a half dozen or less images of Skylab/Saturn V.

Nice choice Ed.

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posted 04-12-2025 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was the MSS ever at Pad A for the Skylab 1 launch vehicle?

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Being that the Skylab 2 stack was rolled out to LC-39B on February 26, 1973 and Skylab 1/Saturn V was rolled out to LC-39A on April 16, there's a good chance the MSS did not relocate to 39A. If it did, it was most likely for a brief period.

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posted 04-12-2025 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The MSS was not at either pad in this Skylab 2 crew photo dated May 4, 1973.

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posted 04-13-2025 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That looks like a KSC tour bus passing by the pad in Ed's photo.

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posted 04-15-2025 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe the MSS was moving from one pad to the other when this photo was taken. It is photo 73-H-410 dated May 4.

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MSS was rolled back from Saturn 1B on May 4 for a possible photo-op with Skylab crew.

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Would they have needed to move the MSS off Pad B for the CDDT? The CDDT dates are mentioned in this NASA article:
On April 26, engineers in the Launch Control Center (LCC) began the Countdown Demonstration Test (CDDT), essentially a dress rehearsal for the countdown leading to the launch itself. They conducted two parallel countdowns, one for the Saturn V monitored in the LCC’s Firing Room 2 and culminating in a simulated liftoff on May 2, and another one for the Saturn IB from Firing Room 3 ending with a simulated liftoff on May 3 ...

On May 4, Conrad, Kerwin, and Weitz took part in the final stage of the CDDT at KSC, called the “dry” stage because workers drained the rocket’s fuel tanks, suiting up and boarding their spacecraft at the launch pad as they would on launch day ...

Weitz, Conrad, and Kerwin pose in front of the Skylab 1 Saturn V at Launch Pad 39A following the Countdown Demonstration Test.

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posted 04-16-2025 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They also posed (suited) in front of the Saturn IB at Pad B.

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posted 04-18-2025 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This excerpt is from "Living and Working in Space: A History of Skylab" regarding the MSS at Pad A:
Much of the debate on Skylab operations centered on the mobile service structure, the only major item at LC 39 without a backup. The structure could be moved, but the five-kilometer trip between pads took about six hours. If operations at pad A required the service structure, pad B went unsupported for at least a day. Kennedy planners initially ruled out using the service structure for the workshop, but during the discussions on a IB launch from 39, Hans Gruene, director of launch vehicle operations, challenged that decision. Loading cryogenics into S-II stages had sometimes cracked the insulation, requiring inspection and repair on the pad, and Gruene saw no reason to believe the problem would not recur during Skylab. If the service structure were not available, an alternate means of access to the S-II would have to be devised or the rocket would have to be returned to the assembly building. The staff acknowledged the problem but did not consider it serious enough to rule out the transfer of the IB operation.

Events that summer confirmed Gruene's prediction. In July, Huntsville stipulated that the S-II insulation would be inspected on the pad. There seemed little choice but to use the service structure for such work. While workmen could reach any part of the Saturn V from a bosun's rig, their activities were severely limited. Using the service structure for both Skylab vehicles, however, posed obvious scheduling difficulties and a few design problems as well. The payload shroud on the workshop was nearly three meters larger in diameter than the Apollo spacecraft. If workmen were to service the S-II stage from the service structure, the bottom platform would have to be extended.

The matter bounced back and forth between KSC offices for several months before it was settled. In October, Kapryan agreed to modify the lowest platform, although the change would leave only one platform to service the lower half of the IB rocket. He recommended that the bottom platform be restored to its original configuration after launch of the first crew, so that all work stations would be available for the last two missions, pointing out that the loss of one day in the operation would cost more than the $85,000 modification. His proposal was approved.

So the MSS was at Pad A for Skylab 1, but I have never seen a photo showing that.

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posted 04-19-2025 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found this in the press kit:
Movement of the Mobile Service Structure, normally associated with a Saturn V operation, will not take place during the SL-1 launch. The MSS was used to inspect the second stage insulation of the Saturn V during the CDDT and then moved from Pad A to Pad B to support the SL-2 launch. It is to be returned to Pad A only if a "scrub" is called after cryogenic loading of the Saturn V begins and another inspection of the second stage insulation panels is necessary. The MSS will be moved from Pad B to its park site - in a nominal launch sequence - after the T-20 hour mark in the SL-2 countdown.

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posted 04-21-2025 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LM-12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This aerial photo of KSC was taken in April 1973. In the background, you can see what must be Skylab 1 and Skylab 2 at Launch Complex 39.
Aerial view of Easter crowds at Visitors Information Center, Kennedy Space Center, Florida.

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