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Topic: Photo of the week 370 (December 3, 2011)
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heng44
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posted 12-03-2011 02:47 AM
   
 Skylab 2 astronauts Conrad, Kerwin and Weitz pose at KSC's launch pad 39B during countdown demonstration test activities on May 4, 1973, with their Saturn 1B in the background. The Saturn V with the unmanned Skylab space station is out of frame on pad 39A. Ed Hengeveld |
LM-12
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posted 12-03-2011 04:42 AM
I like those Apollo-era photos of the crews suited-up with the Saturn launch vehicle on the pad in the background. They should have photographed all the Apollo crews like that, and not just some. |
GACspaceguy
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posted 12-03-2011 05:01 AM
That is such a neat photo. Three in suits and the vehicle in behind. The Saturn 1B always screamed launch vehicle to me. The whole Skylab program was an engineering marvel. They took left over parts and repurposed them into a fantasist program. The SIV-B leftover was turned into a Skylab workshop, a Saturn V left over moon rocket was used as the launch vehicle. The LUT was transformed from a Saturn V platform into a Saturn 1B tower. In some respects even the Saturn 1B fits the theme as the first stage is a combination of Redstone and Jupiter tanks. The LUT pictured is the only part of the Apollo program I ever saw in person as back in the early 1980s it was still parked by the VAB and I saw it on my first ever KSC tour. I sure wish I had the photo that was taken with me in front of it, all I have is the memory.
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Henry Heatherbank
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posted 12-03-2011 05:10 AM
I would imagine photo shoots like this would be pretty quick. You'd roast inside one of those things in the springtime Florida sun without the portable aircon units attached.Which crews did these outdoor shoots with the launch vehicle in the background? Apollos 1, 7 (quarterback pose), 9, 10 and 17 (on the Rover), as well as the pictured SL-2, come to mind. |
LM-12
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posted 12-03-2011 05:12 AM
I have also seen Apollo 8, 12, 13 (with Mattingly) and ASTP. |
Henry Heatherbank
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posted 12-03-2011 05:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by LM-12:
I have also seen Apollo 8, 12, 13 (with Mattingly) and ASTP.
Are you thinking of the 12 shot at the base of the full scale LM mockup, with the ALSEP package laid out? |
LM-12
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posted 12-03-2011 05:18 AM
No, it was at the pad. See Apollo 12 photo KSC-69PC-586 in the Apollo Archive Image Gallery.I recall seeing a full head-to-toe shot of the suited Apollo 12 crew with the launch vehicle on the pad in the background, but I do not have that photo number. |
Henry Heatherbank
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posted 12-03-2011 05:29 AM
So that would mean that it was the norm rather than the exception to do these shoots. That would mean only 14, 16 and SL3 and SL4 had no outdoor shot?Why so few outdoor shoots in the Shuttle program, especially in the early days when (1) there weer a number of Apollo-era guys still in the program and (2) the bird spent long periods on the pad? (Don't get me started on the dreadful photoshopped ones along the way, especially toward the end of the program. I cringe every time I see or think of them. In my opinion, you can't beat the genuine shots, such as this week's photo). |
heng44
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posted 12-03-2011 05:32 AM
As far as I know: - Apollo 1
- Apollo 7
- Apollo 8
- Apollo 9 (twice)
- Apollo 10
- Apollo 11 (not in spacesuits)
- Apollo 12
- Apollo 13
- Apollo 14 (not in spacesuits)
- Apollo 15 (during rollout)
- Apollo 16 (during rollout)
- Apollo 17
- SL-2 (above)
- SL-3 (not in spacesuits)
- SL-4
- ASTP
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LM-12
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posted 12-03-2011 05:55 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Henry Heatherbank:
In my opinion, you can't beat the genuine shots, such as this week's photo).
I agree. |
GoesTo11
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From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 12-03-2011 07:49 AM
Ahhh, the days before Photoshop. Great pic.Also makes me appreciate Conrad's first words on the Moon even more.  |
LM-12
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posted 12-03-2011 07:56 AM
Their Skylab mission emblems are hidden by straps. |
328KF
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posted 12-03-2011 08:54 AM
In some cases the vehicle in the background of these shots was not the one the pictured crew was going to fly on. Apollo 9 comes to mind...the Saturn V in the photo was Apollo 8's. |
mercsim
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posted 12-03-2011 09:24 AM
So it brings the question, are there any shots of the Saturn 1B and Saturn V on the pad together? The shot a few years back of two shuttles on the pads is one of my favorites and is a preferred computer background. |
canyon42
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From: Ohio
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted 12-03-2011 11:37 AM
Found this. Follow the link and scroll down a ways for an interesting shot – the station lifting off with the 1B all "wrapped up" in the foreground. |
heng44
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posted 12-03-2011 11:52 AM
quote:
Originally posted by 328KF:
Apollo 9 comes to mind... the Saturn V in the photo was Apollo 8's.
I believe Apollo 9 was the only case. That is why I added 'twice' above. The crew was also photographed with their own Saturn V after the countdown test. |
heng44
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posted 12-03-2011 11:57 AM
quote:
Originally posted by mercsim:
So it brings the question, are there any shots of the Saturn 1B and Saturn V on the pad together?
This is a nice shot, taken on the same day as the photo above. The Saturn 1B can be seen in the distance at right. |
LM-12
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posted 12-04-2011 10:02 AM
That is a great Skylab 2 crew photo - getting everything in the same shot. quote:
Originally posted by Henry Heatherbank:
Why so few outdoor shoots in the Shuttle program
One of the best is the STS-41 crew photo with a NASA T-38 jet. |
carmelo
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From: Messina, Sicilia, Italia
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 12-05-2011 01:05 PM
Two questions: - Why the brown (and not white) straps on the suit? And what are they?
- Why not A7LB CMP pilot spacesuit (used in trans-eva) for Skylab?
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328KF
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posted 12-05-2011 02:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by heng44:
I believe Apollo 9 was the only case.
I may also have been thinking of Armstrong, Aldrin, and Haise in front of Apollo 8's Saturn, but that was obviously a backup crew. |
LM-12
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posted 12-05-2011 05:28 PM
There were several different Apollo 17 crew photos taken at the pad perimeter, both with and without the rover, including KSC-72P-378 and KSC-72PC-443. |
mach3valkyrie
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From: Albany, Oregon
Registered: Jul 2006
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posted 12-07-2011 11:40 PM
On Spacecraft Films "The Mighty Saturns, Part 1-Saturn 1 & 1B", disc 2 contains a shade over 4 mins. of bonus crew pictures, (in video form) including the shots in this posting. Worth a look. |
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