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heng44
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posted 10-31-2008 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The family of Jim Lovell watch the launch of Apollo 8 from KSC on December 21, 1968. I can not begin to imagine what it must feel like when you see a loved one climb into the sky on that monster-rocket, knowing that in three days he will be 384,000 kilometers away. In my opinion the families were heroes, too.

Ed Hengeveld

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posted 10-31-2008 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great shot, Ed. Never seen that one before.

Have to agree, watching them go in person is truly emotional... can't imagine what it would be like with a family member on board.

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posted 10-31-2008 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for micropooz   Click Here to Email micropooz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember seeing the pictures of the families back then when I was still a kid and thinking "who cares - I wanna see pictures of the astronauts and the hardware!"

Now with a few decades (ok, a LOT of decades!) more life behind me, I have to agree with Heng and Tom. I don't know how the families managed to cope. Many families fell apart afterwards. But the Lovell family seemed to cope well and hang together...

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posted 10-31-2008 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecraft films   Click Here to Email spacecraft films     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I strongly disagree with this assessment.

If I ever got to go into space, with my wife and children knowing how much it meant to me, they would be overjoyed that I was getting to do something that meant so much to me.

Yes, there is risk. But hell, there is risk in getting in the car every morning.

Much better to face the risk doing something that you feel so strongly about....

I just don't think the emotions are being interpreted correctly.... It isn't like they were being sent off to nearly certain death! Or even a high probability of it!

I see a completely different picture... watching someone you love on one of humanity's great voyages... not much more awe-inspiring and incredible than that...

Tom
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posted 10-31-2008 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike Mullane's recent book describes very well what his wife went through everytime her husband launched.

To put it mildly, she didn't look forward to launch day.

heng44
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posted 11-01-2008 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by spacecraft films:
I just don't think the emotions are being interpreted correctly.... It isn't like they were being sent off to nearly certain death! Or even a high probability of it!
Maybe you should ask how Susan Borman feels about this...

Ed

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posted 11-01-2008 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecraft films   Click Here to Email spacecraft films     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My point is that emotions at a time such as this are far more complex than an automatic default to dread.

Fear seems to be the instant interpretation, which tends to capture a disproportionate share of the story when projected historically through several decades, for the sake of drama.

And Ed, I've talked to many people about the probabilities on Apollo 8, but not Susan Borman. I am aware of her concerns.

There was apprehension among many because of the single point SPS failure possibility, and relief when they got past that mission event, but I have interviewed several involved directly with the decision and the mission, and as I specifically said, they were not being sent on a mission with a high probability of death.

heng44
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posted 11-01-2008 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, the emotions of the families during the mission are no doubt complex; a mix of pride, awe, fear and more.

But I think during a launch, especially to the moon, the overriding feeling is probably grave concern for the safety of the loved-one. Didn't Harriet Eisele say "It is agony"?

Somebody can tell me a thousand times that it is perfectly safe for my wife to go bungee-jumping and that technically it isn't dangerous, but I would be very concerned every time.

Ed

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posted 11-01-2008 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark plas   Click Here to Email mark plas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
During that time it was probably more dangerous for an astronaut to fly a T-38, than to sit on top of a Saturn V for a flight to the moon.

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posted 11-01-2008 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for APG85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great picture. They seem to be looking in different directions...

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posted 11-01-2008 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ejectr   Click Here to Email ejectr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What can you say about a picture of a family that is watching their loved one climb through the sky on a thundering 300 foot long shaft of power that has a firey tail as long whose sound just knocked you off your feet as it left the ground not that far from you?

I can just imagine the emotions inside them all. Even the little guy is captured by it.

Great human study photo Ed.

Lou Chinal
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posted 11-01-2008 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy, Proud, Thrilled.

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posted 11-01-2008 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ejectr   Click Here to Email ejectr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lou Chinal:
Happy, Proud, Thrilled.

Maybe the second time, Lou, but I doubt this time!

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