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Topic: Photo of the week 166 (January 5, 2008)
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heng44
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posted 01-05-2008 03:20 AM
   
 Sometimes you have to be lucky as a spaceflight historian. I had always believed that there were no good photos of the original Apollo-8 crew: Frank Borman, Mike Collins and Bill Anders. Until I found one on eBay. With that photo-ID it was easy to ask the JSC photo office to search for adjacent numbers and bingo: a whole series turned up. Here is one of those photos, which show the crew during a visit to the Langley Research Center in early 1967. Behind them is a strange mockup of the LM ascent stage and CM, with even a complete SLA-panel attached. Ed Hengeveld |
Philip
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posted 01-05-2008 05:11 AM
Another great find Ed... Great 'classic' NASA pilot jackets  |
mensclub10
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posted 01-05-2008 08:30 AM
Ed, great photo but wasn't it Lovell who flew with Borman and Anders on Apollo 8? Dave |
cddfspace
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posted 01-05-2008 08:42 AM
Dave,Yes, Lovell flew on Apollo 8. Collins was in the original crew until he needed surgery on his spine. He was pulled out of the rotation and Lovell replaced him. CDDFSPACE |
Tom
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posted 01-05-2008 08:44 AM
Great photo, Ed!Dave, Lovell was originally on the back-up crew with Armstrong and Aldrin. Lovell was moved up when Collins had surgery. Ed, any chance of having a photo of the original Apollo 9 back-up crew: Conrad Gordon and Williams? Thanks! |
heng44
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posted 01-05-2008 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by Tom:
Ed, any chance of having a photo of the original Apollo 9 back-up crew: Conrad Gordon and Williams?
If I had that photo I would have posted it immediately, believe me!Ed |
Lou Chinal
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posted 01-05-2008 04:50 PM
All-That jacket that Mike Collins is wearing I think is the one now on display in the AHOF Fla. -Lou |
carmelo
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posted 01-06-2008 11:49 AM
The photo is before Apollo-1 fire? |
Lou Chinal
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posted 01-06-2008 12:06 PM
Carmelo, I'm not sure. I think Collins had his spine operated on sometime in the summer of 1967. Just after the fire. I do know he was on the Apollo 8 crew a very short time. Lovell replaced him very early in the training.Maybe Ed could help us out with a date on this photo? I hope the weather is nice in Italy! -Lou |
Tom
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posted 01-06-2008 01:18 PM
The photo had to be taken after the Apollo 1 fire since the Apollo 503 crew (Borman Collins and Anders) was announced in November 1967. Lovell replaced Collins in the summer of 1968. |
heng44
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posted 01-06-2008 01:56 PM
Guys, read my first post again. The photo was taken in early 1967, probably January.Ed |
Tom
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posted 01-06-2008 02:04 PM
I stand corrected... Borman-Collins-Anders were selected in December 1966. |
Lou Chinal
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posted 01-06-2008 04:35 PM
Ed-
Sorry, I did not catch that. Somehow I don't think they would be smiling like that right after the fire.
-Lou |
carmelo
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posted 01-06-2008 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by heng44:
The photo was taken in early 1967, probably January.
So is... Apollo 3 crew?
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Delta7
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posted 01-06-2008 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by carmelo:
So is... Apollo 3 crew?
Yes. quote:
Was planned as a test of the Apollo lunar module in high earth orbit and the first manned mission launched by a Saturn V. This flight was cancelled due of the launch pad fire on January 27, 1967.
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robsouth
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posted 01-10-2008 08:46 PM
29th September 1966 the Apollo 2 (AS-205) crew are announced with back ups Borman Stafford Collins. 17th November 1966 the Apollo 2 (AS-205) mission is cancelled. 2nd December 1966 The Apollo 3 crew is announced with Borman Collins Anders. 12th July 1968 Collins is diagnosed with a growth pressing on his spinal cord and replaced by his back up Lovell. The photo could therefore be anytime between December 66 and July 68 although probably not just after the Apollo 1 fire. |
heng44
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posted 01-11-2008 12:15 AM
Again, the photo number indicates this photo was taken in early 1967, probably just before the Apollo-1 fire.Ed |
garymilgrom
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posted 01-11-2008 07:23 AM
Those guys look awful young! |
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posted 01-17-2008 07:22 PM
Another great photo sir! We are truly blessed by your posts here. I agree with you about this being a pre-fire shot if only for the simple reason that Borman was immediately sucked into the fire investigation and program recovery. |
lb206
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posted 06-12-2008 08:56 PM
Ok i know this picture post is old but i just saw it. A note on the strange LM and CM mockup in the background. I believe they were used in the Rendevous and Docking training facility at Langley. The same facility was used during Grmini as well. I have seen pictures of a similar mockup used in that facility. These would have been suspended from the inside of the Hangar at Langley ad were used to simulate dockings. The Facility is now a national historic landmark and the hardware is still in the hangar to this day though nothing is suspended from it anymore. |
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