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Topic: Photo of the week 111 (December 16)
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heng44
Member Posts: 3387
From: Netherlands
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 12-16-2006 04:43 AM
   
 "How did I get here?" Astronaut Neil Armstrong rides a mule during a geologic training trip to the Grand Canyon in March 1964. Ed Hengeveld |
KSCartist
Member Posts: 2896
From: Titusville, FL USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 12-16-2006 06:10 AM
He does look a lot less comfortable in the saddle than the cockpit.BTW thats the NASA patch I want. The "old" one with the white border. Tim |
capoetc
Member Posts: 2169
From: McKinney TX (USA)
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 12-16-2006 09:06 AM
Great photo of the original idea to use horses instead of lunar rovers. Proved to be too great of an engineering challenge ...  ------------------
John Capobianco
Camden DE |
Astro Bill
Member Posts: 1329
From: New York, NY
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 12-16-2006 09:33 AM
"I'm back in the saddle again... This is silly. They will never be able to fit a horse into the LM." |
GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 2476
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 12-16-2006 10:09 AM
KSCartist, there is a patch on eBay #180062111032 that looks like it. It closes in 3 hours though, O bid and is about $5. |
MCroft04
Member Posts: 1634
From: Smithfield, Me, USA
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted 12-16-2006 12:01 PM
I always found it interesting that the astronauts trained in the Grand Canyon where the geology is very different from the moon. It is a great place to learn basic geological principles of sedimentary rocks, but there are no sedimentary rocks on the moon. No doubt there are basic geological principles that can be gleaned from the GC that apply anywhere, but it seems like there are better places to get this basic training that would be more similar to the moon. Note there are some volcanic rocks in the canyon but they are not common (and metamorphic rocks at the bottom of the canyon); the moon is comprised of volcanic rocks (well I guess if one goes deep enough there should be metamorphosed igneous rock, but they would be deep). Yes I know they trained elsewhere in volcanic terrain. Does anyone know if the GC training was part of the initial introduction to their geological training? |
mjanovec
Member Posts: 3811
From: Midwest, USA
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 12-17-2006 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by MCroft04:
Does anyone know if the GC training was part of the initial introduction to their geological training?
Yes, the Grand Canyon was the first place the astronauts visited during their geology training. When they had progressed beyond the basics, more specialized training took place elsewhere. This site provide a good history of the training sessions:
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/ap-geotrips.pdf Based on that site, this photo was taken during the very first training session on either March 5 or 6. [Edited by mjanovec (December 17, 2006).] |
MCroft04
Member Posts: 1634
From: Smithfield, Me, USA
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted 12-17-2006 03:41 PM
Thanks for the link to the geological training summary; I am impressed with the level of training. At the UACC in San Antonio earlier this year I talked Gunter Wendt into playing a joke on Wally Schirra that involved a rock that I picked up out of my garden. After the punch line, Wally came up to me and told me he knew what kind of rock it was (chert) and he was absolutely correct. I was impressed. |
mjanovec
Member Posts: 3811
From: Midwest, USA
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted 12-17-2006 09:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MCroft04:
Thanks for the link to the geological training summary; I am impressed with the level of training. At the UACC in San Antonio earlier this year I talked Gunter Wendt into playing a joke on Wally Schirra that involved a rock that I picked up out of my garden. After the punch line, Wally came up to me and told me he knew what kind of rock it was (chert) and he was absolutely correct. I was impressed.
Yes, some of the astronauts became extremely good field geologists. Not only did they have to learn how to fly to the moon, they had to learn a whole other profession to practice once they got to the moon. |
FFrench
Member Posts: 3161
From: San Diego
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 12-17-2006 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by MCroft04:At the UACC in San Antonio earlier this year I talked Gunter Wendt into playing a joke on Wally Schirra that involved a rock that I picked up out of my garden.
I'd love to hear the story! |
MCroft04
Member Posts: 1634
From: Smithfield, Me, USA
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted 12-18-2006 11:36 AM
Francis,I'll have to email it to you. I doubt that Robert would appreciate me posting the joke here. I believe I even have a couple pictures of Gunter setting up Wally. The joke really isn't funny; it's all in the set-up. |
FFrench
Member Posts: 3161
From: San Diego
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 12-18-2006 12:13 PM
Ah, one of THOSE stories, I see...... look forward to reading it! |
MCroft04
Member Posts: 1634
From: Smithfield, Me, USA
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted 12-19-2006 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by FFrench:
Ah, one of THOSE stories, I see...... look forward to reading it!
Francis, I don't see your email address. If you email me I'll reply with the story and some pictures. |
FFrench
Member Posts: 3161
From: San Diego
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 12-20-2006 06:28 PM
Thanks for E-mailing me that story - much appreciated! |
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