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moonnut
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posted 09-02-2014 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonnut   Click Here to Email moonnut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It took a cold war to ignite the space race that propelled us to the moon. I believe it will take another country other than the US going to the moon or beyond to ignite that fire again.

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posted 09-03-2014 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 328KF   Click Here to Email 328KF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a great article that makes some very interesting points regarding the ARM mission and its' applications to moving on to Mars. Among the arguments, this is offered:
Also in the Split Mission Concept: don’t take crew Earth-ascent/descent vehicle (Orion) to Mars and back; transfer in highly elliptical orbit (HEO) or a distant retrograde orbit (DRO) around the Moon on both the outbound and return legs. This saves taking about 20 metric tons of mass to and from Mars, and allows for some hardware reuse on later missions. ARM helps by demonstrating deep space rendezvous and docking and by having a habitat module in one variant of the human ARM mission. This option also shows how NASA is now including multiple missions in its Mars-forward planning: finally, they are getting away from the single-shot approach and moving to a sustained program.
The full article is a good read.

Lou Chinal
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posted 09-06-2014 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any plans for a lunar orbit mapping mission, or a long duration lunar orbital stay, as some have suggested during the later phase of Apollo?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-06-2014 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The lunar orbiters of recent years, including NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, JAXA's Kaguya, China's Chang'e 1 and 2 and ISRO's Chandrayaan-1 (to say nothing of NASA's GRAIL and LADEE) have pretty much ruled out the need for an extended crewed lunar orbital mission.

Tykeanaut
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posted 10-22-2014 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I apologise if I'm missing something here but I cannot understand why Mars is cited as the holy grail for the prolonged existence of humans? When the sun dies all the planets will be destroyed.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-22-2014 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The sun is not expected to exhaust its core hydrogen for another 5.4 billion years. No one is proposing Mars as a safe haven for that event.

Rather, Mars is the most feasible destination for humanity to become a multi-planet species before expanding outwards, beyond our solar system (see projects like the 100 Year Starship and Icarus Interstellar).

Tykeanaut
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posted 10-22-2014 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fair enough Robert and thanks for your reply. My interest has been piqued once more by recently reading "Mission to Mars" by Buzz Aldrin.

I just cannot believe that some would perhaps have no personal problems in colonizing another planet. A short-term mission would be difficult enough, both logistically, healthwise and psychologically. The whole scenario intrigues me.

Blackarrow
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posted 10-22-2014 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
...Mars is the most feasible destination for humanity to become a multi-planet species before expanding outwards, beyond our solar system
I enthusiastically agree with this. I just feel we should return to the Moon on the way to Mars.


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