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  Orion...Constellation...Clarification

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capcom9
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posted 11-27-2006 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capcom9   Click Here to Email capcom9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please help me to understand a few things regarding the upcoming manned missions to the moon, mars, etc...

Is the program called "Project Orion", like the name of our previous manned moon program "Project Apollo"? Or is "Orion" simply the name of the launch vehicle, like the Saturn?

Then what about "Constellation"? Is this the name of the manned program, or is it the name of the spacecraft, etc..

I'm a bit confused and would appreciate some clarification..

Thanks.

[Edited by capcom9 (November 27, 2006).]

[Edited by capcom9 (November 27, 2006).]

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posted 11-27-2006 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
capcom9-

As I understand it and some better educated folks may correct me, the following are the name equivalents:

Project Apollo - Project Orion

Saturn 1B - Ares 1

Saturn V - Ares V


Constellation Program is to represent the entire post Shuttle "Vision for Space Exploration" effort.

Hope this helps.

Tim

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posted 11-27-2006 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim summed it up nicely, though the comparisons between Ares I and V and Saturn IB and V are not exactly parallel.

Just as Apollo/Saturn was under the Manned Space Program, Orion/Ares is under Constellation. Orion Command Modules on Orion missions will take astronauts to the ISS and the Moon, propelled there by Ares rockets.

There's additional comments under a previous thread on the same topic.

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posted 11-28-2006 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capcom9   Click Here to Email capcom9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, all. I think I got it now.

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posted 12-05-2006 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Planning so far ( while working on completing ISS and retiring the Space Shuttle ):

Testflight of the ARES 1 launch vehicle is planned for 2009 (4 segment SRB + dummy 5th segment + dummy CEV as payload).
Probably a 5 segment SRB might fly in 2012 before an operational CEV might fly in 2014…
Didn’t find any planning on ARES V testflights…

Please correct me if I'm wrong

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posted 12-05-2006 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mcduffstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually Orion is reference to the Crew Vehicle only being led by the Johnson space Center and Ares is reference to the Launch Vehicle being led by the Marshall Spce Flight Center.

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posted 12-05-2006 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mcduffstuff:
Actually Orion is reference to the Crew Vehicle only...
According to AA for Exploration Scott Horowitz, the name refers to the missions as well, which would be consistent with Apollo-era usage.

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posted 12-05-2006 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would be curious if they retain the crew vehical name of Orion when they start planning the Mars missions. Granted, the likelihood of an updated crew vehical for the Mars missions is probably pretty good, so perhaps the issue will never arise.

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