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Topic: Alan Shepard, his ear surgery and flight status
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Captain Apollo Member Posts: 260 From: UK Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 02-17-2014 04:22 PM
I understand that Alan Shepard's surgery involved inserting a tube or shunt to drain fluid from his inner ear. Does anyone know, did this drain solution rely on gravity, in which case I am puzzled how he could have regained flight status? Or was it perhaps capillary action that drained his ear? I suppose that if gravity it might not matter on the lunar surface, but during the rest of the flight? Or was it the case that the draining effect gave him respite for a period and the build up of fluid that could not drain away in zero G would take longer than the mission? |
Skylon Member Posts: 274 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted 02-17-2014 10:17 PM
Based on my novice reading here, I don't think gravity was part of the "drain" of endolymph (an excess build up of this fluid causes Ménière's disease). For whatever reason, Ménière's disease is caused by an excess production of the fluid (it doesn't seem like anyone has a satisfactory reason why such a build-up occurs). It sounds like Endolymphatic Shunt Placement (the specific procedure Shepard underwent) simply provides a path for the additional fluid it drain out, instead of build up and cause all the problems associated with Ménière's disease. Again, this is just based on quick research, so anybody with a better idea (and an actual medical background), please feel free to jump in. |
Buel Member Posts: 649 From: UK Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 06-22-2018 11:05 AM
No medical background here but I had a very interesting chat this week with a work colleague who has recently been diagnosed with Meniere's disease. He told me that his surgeon was absolutely adamant that should he undergo the "shunt" procedure then he will be left with zero hearing in that ear.Now, I may be missing something here but does this mean that Shepard was subsequently deaf in one ear post-operation and, effectively, deaf in one ear whilst on the lunar surface? |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 06-22-2018 12:19 PM
According to media reports from the time, Alan Shepard was complaining of hearing loss before the surgery and as a result of it, "Shepard's hearing returned completely over the next few months."Based on a quick search, it seems there are varying degrees of Meniere's disease and varying responses to the treatments. What may be true for one patient isn't true for another. |
hlbjr Member Posts: 475 From: Delray Beach Florida USA Registered: Mar 2006
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posted 06-23-2018 10:24 AM
Are there any accounts of Al having any issues after his spaceflight career? I have a friend who saw Al flying a Cessna 310 out of one of the Houston GA airports in the early 70's so he apparently had his "Medical" from the FAA at that time. By the way, I was told Deke was with him! I'd have loved to have been there. |
Buel Member Posts: 649 From: UK Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 06-23-2018 10:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Robert Pearlman: What may be true for one patient isn't true for another.
This may be true but I'm referring to the "shunt" procedure that I'm led to believe he had. There are no varying responses to this, according to the surgeon — shunt equals total deafness in that particular ear. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 06-23-2018 10:58 AM
Well, that is clearly not true because a quick search turns up a number of personal testimonials from people who had the shunt placed for Ménière's disease and reported regaining, rather than losing, their hearing (as is also consistent with the reports about Shepard).Perhaps there are different types of shunts, or different placements for the shunt, which result in different outcomes. |
Buel Member Posts: 649 From: UK Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 06-23-2018 02:15 PM
Interesting. I'll get back to the surgeon if I can! |
YankeeClipper Member Posts: 617 From: Dublin, Ireland Registered: Mar 2011
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posted 06-23-2018 04:36 PM
Here are links to five academic papers on the subject from 1979 to 2017. Three are abstracts and the last two are the most current and comprehensive:Paper 1 | Paper 2 | Paper 3 | Paper 4 | Paper 5 |
oly Member Posts: 905 From: Perth, Western Australia Registered: Apr 2015
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posted 06-24-2018 12:24 AM
I somehow think that the risk of standing on the moon in a pressure suit, relying on hearing in only one ear, with the associated risk of the failure of one earphone in the snoopy cap resulting in total communications loss may just have been too high for NASA, especially directly after Apollo 13. And I also think that being deaf in one ear would make passing a military aviation physical to fly almost impossible. But I may be wrong. |
larry115 New Member Posts: 7 From: Registered: May 2014
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posted 07-10-2018 08:28 PM
I need to add my $0.02 here. Please, nobody shoot me because I'm just the messenger and am passing on what another person has told me.In 2003, I developed a eustachian problem and went to see an ear, nose and throat doctor not far from the Century City area of southern California. He had been a doctor in the U.S. Air Force, so over the course of several visits our conversation would always turn to flying. On one occasion, probably after discussing the possibility of Meniere's, he asked me if I had heard of Alan Shepard and his ear problem. I told him of course I had. The doctor stated he had been interning with Dr. House during the period Shepard was House's patient. He told me that because medication was the preferred method of treatment for Meniere's (both in 1969 and 2003), and because of the high risk of loss of hearing from surgery, that Shepard never had the actual operation, only a "cosmetic" procedure to make it look as if the surgery had been done. Shepard's actual course of treatment involved the use of medication. There is some plausibility to this, as the use of meds while flying might be medically disqualifying, but that a successful shunt procedure might not. And Shepard being Shepard, this isn't as far fetched as it sounds when I think about it. But again, please understand I'm not vouching for this information; I'm only the messenger. |
YankeeClipper Member Posts: 617 From: Dublin, Ireland Registered: Mar 2011
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posted 07-10-2018 10:05 PM
Interesting!If that version of events is true then it differs from the conventional narrative reported over the years. In a July 1998 Los Angeles Times article,The Doctor Behind Shepard's Apollo 14 Flight, it was reported that deception at a certain level was used to maintain Shepard's privacy: Shepard, who demanded secrecy to avoid media attention, entered St. Vincent's Hospital in Los Angeles under the name Victor Poulos. It was a name made up by one of House's nurses. The article indicates that it was Tom Stafford who told Shepard in 1968 about the work of Dr. William F. House of Newport Beach, and that surgery was indeed carried out.A February 1971 New York Times article, A Tube Implant Corrected Shepard's Ear Disease, quotes NASA chief physician Dr. Charles A. Berry, details the surgery, refers to vertigo experienced by John Glenn as a result of injury, and briefly discusses Shepard being a Christian Scientist: Dr. House performed the shunt operation, which Dr. Berry said was done at space agency expense. The surgery. Dr. House wrote, was "not designed to cure Meniere's disease" but to relieve its symptoms.Dr. House cut through the mastoid bone behind Captain Shepard's left ear into a round part of the inner ear called the sacculus that contains endolymph. Dr. House slit the sacculus, inserted one end of the tiny tube and then connected the other end to the cerebrospinal fluid behind the sacculus. Natural Healing Process Captain Shepard's natural healing. Dr. Berry said, has fixed the tube in place since the operation. Space agency doctors have tested the captain several times to see if the pressure encountered during space flight could dislodge the vital tube. "Al had no problem," Dr. Berry said. |
oly Member Posts: 905 From: Perth, Western Australia Registered: Apr 2015
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posted 07-11-2018 03:16 AM
I do not see what is wrong in taking Alan Shepard's words regarding this subject as fact. I went on out there. The fellow said, "Yeah, we do. What we do is we make a little opening there, put a tube in so that it enlarges the chamber that takes that fluid pressure, and in some cases it's worked." And I said, "Well, what if it doesn't work?" And he said, "Well, you won't be any worse off than you are, except you might lose your hearing. But other than that..." So I went out there under an assumed name. What was the name? It was Poulos, I think. Victor Poulos. The doctor knew and the nurse knew, but nobody else knew... So, Victor Poulos checks in and they run the operation ... it's not that traumatic, obviously, because after about a day I was out of there. Of course it was obvious when you look at the big ball of stuff over my ear when I get back home. But NASA started looking at me. And several months, several months, several months went by, and finally said, "Yes, all the tests show that you no longer are affected by this Ménière's disease." So there I was, having made the right decision. |
Tykeanaut Member Posts: 2212 From: Worcestershire, England, UK. Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 07-11-2018 04:29 AM
So was the tube left in permanently to continually drain the fluid for the rest of his life?I was diagnosed with this about 30-years ago and am pretty much deaf in one ear. The dizziness and nausea initially was very, very unpleasant. Fortunately this rarely occurs now and I have read that the symptoms can disappear altogether given time. |