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Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-26-2013 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A NASA Langley Research Center release notes briefly that astronaut Shannon Walker survived a T-38 jet accident this week.
NASA astronaut Shannon Walker had a bit of a rough start to her day Tuesday (July 23). Shortly after she took off from Johnson Space Center in Texas on her way to help hand out some well-deserved awards at NASA's Langley Research Center, a bird struck the engine of her T-38.

Scary stuff. But Walker barely missed a beat.

She landed her crippled plane, filled out some paperwork and hopped in another jet, arriving at NASA Langley in time to hand out several Silver Snoopy and Space Flight Awareness awards.

albatron
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posted 07-26-2013 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for albatron   Click Here to Email albatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thankfully she's ok. I'm curious though, was she Pilot in Command?

mach3valkyrie
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posted 07-26-2013 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mach3valkyrie   Click Here to Email mach3valkyrie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the vague nature of the press release, only one of the two engines was affected by the bird strike and the T-38 had sufficient power with the other engine so that Astronaut Walker and the pilot could land safely.

I'm glad they're okay.

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posted 07-26-2013 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not aware that she's a jet-rated pilot. Presumably she was in the rear seat and a NASA pilot was flying, but why leave that out in the news release? It makes it out like she was flying alone, unless I'm missing something.

Cozmosis22
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posted 07-26-2013 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cozmosis22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad everything turned out OK.

There's nothing in her bio to indicate that she is a pilot, and never flew on the STS. Maybe a bit of "journalistic exuberance" in that report? Her husband, astronaut Andy Thomas, was a non-pilot mission specialist.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-26-2013 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Walker is a licensed pilot and owns her own aircraft, but to my knowledge, she's a backseater in the T-38. I have inquired with JSC but probably won't hear back until Monday.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-29-2013 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Per a NASA spokesman, Walker was flying backseat when a bird of still unknown type struck the T-38 jet.

Flying front seat was another astronaut, whose name has not yet been released.

More details will be forthcoming.

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posted 07-29-2013 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nigel Mc   Click Here to Email Nigel Mc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quite remarkable!

SpaceSteve
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posted 07-29-2013 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceSteve   Click Here to Email SpaceSteve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't want to jump to any conclusions, but I wonder if the front-seater was perhaps injured in the bird strike.

If Shannon Walker was the back-seater, and the Langley press release is correct that she landed the plane, and NASA isn't releasing information about the person in the front seat, it does make me wonder a bit.

I sincerely hope that is not the case, and the other pilot is OK also.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-29-2013 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I understand, NASA is just waiting for the front-seater's permission to release his name.

mikej
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posted 07-30-2013 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mikej   Click Here to Email mikej     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
a bird of still unknown type struck the T-38 jet
I believe it was pâté.

astro-nut
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posted 08-11-2013 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro-nut   Click Here to Email astro-nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any word or release of who the pilot of the T-38 was for this incident? Thanks.

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posted 08-12-2013 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The astronaut who was piloting the T-38 has requested NASA not release his name. His identity aside, I have inquired if an incident report is available (redacted as necessary).

Spaceguy5
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posted 08-12-2013 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spaceguy5   Click Here to Email Spaceguy5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder which T-38 was involved in the accident.

FlightAware logs show NASA 910 as going to Langley on the 23rd, departing Houston at 8:21 AM CDT and doing an intermediate stop in Tennessee. NASA 910 later returned to Houston at 5:26 PM. (I'm confused by this, because I thought NASA 910 was scrapped)

NASA 921 is logged as having left Ellington at 7:49 for Arkansas (an airport frequently visited as an intermediate step in cross-country flights). It then shows 'flight result unknown,' with an estimated flight path returning to Ellington. NASA 921's next flight was later that day at 4:24 PM (just flying over the Houston area, and landing again at 5:09).

If it was NASA 921 in the accident, could they have really repaired/replaced the engine and had the plane flying again before Shannon Walker even returned to Ellington?

canyon42
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posted 08-12-2013 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for canyon42   Click Here to Email canyon42     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find it a little surprising that the astronaut in question even has the option to keep his/her identity secret. I'm trying to think of any other similar situations where that is the case. I mean, just as an example, if I am involved in a car accident (whether I am at fault or not), I can't just decide to remove my name from the public record. Interesting.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-12-2013 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe federal agencies are limited from disclosing information about individuals without the permission of the individual in question. The applicable law may be the Privacy Act of 1974, but I am not sure.

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posted 08-12-2013 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cozmosis22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
The astronaut who was piloting the T-38 has requested NASA not release his name.
Guess this confirms our initial suspicion that the original report, which implied that she was piloting the jet, was indeed inaccurate?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-12-2013 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As noted above:
Per a NASA spokesman, Walker was flying backseat...

Spaceguy5
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posted 08-13-2013 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spaceguy5   Click Here to Email Spaceguy5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cozmosis22:
Guess this confirms our initial suspicion that the original report, which implied that she was piloting the jet, was indeed inaccurate?
Technically the back seater can pilot as there are a set of controls. However procedure is to have the pilot in the front seat control critical phases like landing.

astro-nut
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posted 08-25-2013 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro-nut   Click Here to Email astro-nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still no word on who the pilot for the T-38 was? Just curious.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-25-2013 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The name of the pilot is not going to be released.

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