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Richard Easton
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posted 03-23-2009 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Easton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am glad that you are preserving these important experiences of women who worked on Apollo. I’m working on a history of GPS, and it’s unfortunate that so many people are only interested in the astronauts. A year ago, I attended the 50th anniversary of Vanguard 1 and it was a great experience meeting many of the people who worked on it.

sara1861
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posted 03-31-2009 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sara1861   Click Here to Email sara1861     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry you haven't heard from me in a while -- we had 2 deaths in our family- both within a week.

But something strange is going on -- I am receiving requests for my autograph from all over the country - Calif. to New York. What on earth? I am a nobody.

Now our local ABC affiliate wants to make a special about me.

This is my newly published book about The Biggest Explosions in the Universe.

KSCartist
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posted 03-31-2009 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please accept my condolences on the losses in your family. Such a tragedy.

What you are experiencing is the power of collectSPACE. When you post on this site you have no idea how many people from around the world will see it.

You certainly are NOT "a nobody." Congratulations on long overdue attention.

sara1861
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posted 03-31-2009 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sara1861   Click Here to Email sara1861     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KSCartist:
You certainly are NOT "a nobody." Congratulations on long overdue attention.
Wow, Tim! What a nice thing to say.

Thank you for your compliments. But for 40 years I have been a "nobody". Oh, if the world could see what I have! I would love to be able to speak to the children of this world and fill them with the excitement of the stars!

The only school that has wanted me to speak is the U.S. Naval Academy. I love them all! Sadly in Leon County, Fl. (where Tallahassee is) no one in the schools wants me to speak to the kids and I am FREE.

You don't have to be interested or know about a subject to listen and learn. People being not interested in Apollo is crap! The schools are not interested in ANY speakers. It has nothing to do with the subject.

sara1861
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posted 04-01-2009 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sara1861   Click Here to Email sara1861     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Help! I am hoping someone can reach Frank Borman, Bill Anders and Jim Lovell. My book has just been published by Amazon.com. It is a short book about the birth and death of stars written for young adults/teens. The name is "The Biggest Explosions in the Universe". In the beginning of the book I have devoted two pages to Apollo 8, Earthrise, the Book of Genesis, the Episcopal Book of Prayer and the Navy Hymn.

Not only does it give them really great credit, there is a new verse added to the Navy Hymn. Also, the Midshipmen and women would love to see and hear Jim Lovell. He is a legend at the academy!

sara1861
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posted 04-02-2009 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sara1861   Click Here to Email sara1861     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I apologize if I have offended anyone with my previous remarks. I have a short fuse when it comes to education today. My friends and I received such great educations and we all continue to inform ourselves. Here is a short list: Astronomy, Geology, Volcanoes, Aviation, Library Science, Mathematics, Biology, Chemistry, Music, Art, Sailing, Computer Science, History, Graphics and Design and last but not least -- Rocket Science and Space Exploration. Mind you, this is a short list. We try to educate our children and grandchildren to the wonders of this world. I believe that an informed child is a SAFE child.

I am getting ready to tell you more about Michoud and the S1-C Stage. But first, I want to tell you about my heroes. I have had the honor to know all of them.

  1. I knew Dr. Wernher Von Braun and so did my dad. Dr. Von Braun, I think, had 2 girls. He helped me believe that girls can do anything. I did.

  2. I met Jacqueline Cochran in 1962. She broke every record in aviation for both men and women.

  3. Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson - the Director of the Hayden Planetarium in NYC and host for PBS "Nova". I met him in 2005 at LSU in Shreveport, La.

  4. John J. Nance - the Aviation Consultant to ABC news, Best-Selling Author and whose books were made into great movies.
Such great wonderful people! I am so blessed.

On to Michoud.

sara1861
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posted 04-02-2009 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sara1861   Click Here to Email sara1861     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Michoud is the most enormous building I have ever seen or walked into. Two guys didn't believe me. They recently went to New Orleans to visit their family. They don't know each other. They called me when they returned. The conversation went like this, "OMG, this is the biggest building I have ever seen!". I smirked. Tee, Hee!

Every engineering team had clerks and secretaries. Ours was a gorgeous babe. How do I know? We went water-skiing together every weekend. She looked great in a bikini. Down boys -- she is now a grandmother.

I've had folks ask me where were our pictures. You ask the astronauts too. We are all madder than hell. NASA gave out only their cameras and confiscated all of them. I don't know about other plants, but I never saw a camera anywhere. We were searched every morning arriving for work.

There were signs that said if anyone was caught with a camera, they would be shot on sight (just kidding about the shooting part). At that time the cameras were enormous clunky things. How would one sneak that in?

I'm going to have to put this narrative on hold. I haven't done our income tax yet. Yuk! The next post will be about what we saw upon walking into the building.

randy
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posted 04-02-2009 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randy   Click Here to Email randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are definitely NOT a nobody! You have seen and done things, worked with and know people that the rest of us just dream about!

My condolences on the recent deaths in your family.

sara1861
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posted 04-02-2009 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sara1861   Click Here to Email sara1861     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Randy! You are a dear. After 40 years of indifference, I can't help feeling like a nobody.

But you know, we only go around one time and we had better make the most of it. I will talk to anyone. If I don't, I'll miss something or someone really important.

Gotta go -- we are having rip-roaring really bad storms with flooding, tornadoes and power outages. We have had this for 2 days. Yuk!

On edit: I'm back but for a short post. I am so excited -- I found a treasure! It is a very large book in excellent condition. "History of Rocketry and Space Travel" by Dr. Wernher Von Braun and Frederick I Ordway III.

You wouldn't believe the pictures and the narration from the Chinese and everything in between to Apollo. The pictures alone must be very rare. The book was published in 1966. It has been in a library somewhere for all these years. It has 244 pages but is so big, it is very heavy. Don't worry, I will get to Michoud soon.

sara1861
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posted 04-06-2009 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sara1861   Click Here to Email sara1861     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's time for Michoud. When anyone walked in the door for the first time, they were stunned. Not only was the building enormous, there were our stages in various conditions of being assembled. You all know that EVERYTHING we use today from cars to aircraft carriers to your cell phones to all appliances are ASSEMBLED. I don't know of anything whereby all the parts are made in one place and put together. So it was with the entire Saturn V. Our F-1 engines were made at Rocketdyne in Calif. (part of Pratt & Whitney). The fuel tanks, pressurization, turbo pumps and much more was made elsewhere.

Walking into the building, you were faced with enormous scaffolding, technicians all over the place and much more. It was organized chaos and VERY LOUD! Everyone (including me) was yelled at. The techs would scream, "Get the hell outta here".

We were just passing through the assembly area to get to the engineering spaces. But we beat feet!

In the assembly area were our stages having the skirts welded on. (Do you know what a skirt is?) Then they were in various pieces being worked on. A word about the welding: EVERY weld was X-rayed-sometimes many times.

The skirts were welded over the basic framework of the stage. Here is what worries me today: Those dangerous X-rays. How many of the techs developed cancer or other terrible things due to the radiation?

I worry about people. I worried about Mike Collins alone orbiting the Moon while Neil and Buzz were on the Moon.

One time I made the mistake of looking at the enormous X-ray machine when it was turned on. Yow-ouch. I developed cataracts a few years ago. (???)

Remember, the 1st Stage was assembled by Boeing and the 2nd Stage by Chrysler under contract from North American Aviation. Michoud was divided into parts -- we were in the front section and Chrysler was in the rear section. We were the Cowboys and Chrysler the Indians. Every time a Boeing engineer saw a Chrysler engineer, they would say, "NNaa, nnaaa our stage is bigger than your stage". Lots of water fights ensued. In the assembly area in three years or so I think we worked on about 14 S1-C stages. That was in the period of three years. Chrysler did the same. I am writing a book because there is too much to tell on a blog.

When the stages were completed in our area, they were stored in our area either in a floor cradle or suspended from the ceiling.

Then each stage which was completed except for the most important part -- the engines. The engines were installed in another building. After some more adjustments, the stage was loaded onto a barge and sent through Lake Pontchatrain, Lake Borne, out into the Gulf and up the Pearl River to the Mississippi Test Site near Bay St. Louis.

I was on the Systems Test Engineering Team.

Now the stage mounted on the test stand was our baby. Yahoo! What a great fun job!

The stage was loaded and they let her rip! Wow! Seven and a half MILLION pounds of thrust! I have video. I have pictures. I have most of the manufacturing and test records.

There is so much more to tell -- three years' of work. Triumph and tragedy. Boeing is the very best company that I worked for in my 25+ career.

I have begged and pleaded people to let me show my DVD and pictures. The U.S. Naval Academy loved me and I loved them. I know the Air Force Academy and maybe West Point would like to hear me speak. I am getting desperate -- this information needs to be told to the American people.

I saw some firemen this morning and I just might call them. I have so many people who want to see the video and hear what I have to say. Someone told me of the Astronaut Scholarship thing in November. But it costs money and we are in financial trouble.

sara1861
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posted 04-12-2009 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sara1861   Click Here to Email sara1861     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kr4mula:
I also believe your situation is exacerbated by the fact that you worked for a contractor. NASA kept many records about its own people's work, but very little about anyone who wore a contractor badge.
I have been researching the women of Apollo for two years. I even contacted the NASA history office. I did receive a list of the women who worked at Marshall and on the Cape for NASA. Unfortunately, there are NO resources to find the women who worked for the contractors (probably very few). I seem to be the only one online. Thanks for your info.

sara1861
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posted 04-12-2009 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sara1861   Click Here to Email sara1861     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GACspaceguy:
"Pilots might have the Right Stuff, but Engineers have the Real Stuff"
I love this one! Thanks.

sara1861
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posted 05-10-2009 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sara1861   Click Here to Email sara1861     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kr4mula:
All that said, NASA did start a program a few years ago to extend its oral histories specifically to include some of the key women in its history.
Thanks so much Kevin for the info. I checked your info out. These NASA websites are for NASA women employees only. Those of us who worked for the contractors are totally ignored. But it is not NASA's fault. The employees today do not know beans about the contractors or their employees. They never will. It is impossible and just not doable.

I called Boeing (my employer). Ha! Ha! They had my name but they don't know where our records are. Boeing was one of the main contractors. If they don't know anything, what do the others know?

Anyway, I think all the employees have disappeared because of alien abductions and are "lost in space". They just haven't caught me yet!

sara1861
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posted 05-10-2009 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sara1861   Click Here to Email sara1861     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is my television debut with our local ABC affiliate. I am old and ugly so don't be shocked.

Follow me on Twitter (sara1861) or at my blog. Blessings to everyone.

capoetc
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posted 05-10-2009 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capoetc   Click Here to Email capoetc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What outfit are you wearing in this photo of you with Werner von Braun? It looks like a uniform of some kind...

sara1861
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posted 05-10-2009 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sara1861   Click Here to Email sara1861     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by capoetc:
It looks like a uniform of some kind...
You are right. You are going to laugh at this one. I was in High School from 1959 to 1961 when my friends and I graduated. There was ROTC in High Schools all over the U.S. I think the purpose of this was to help graduates pay for some college. After college, they were to join the Army. Now, this is the hilarious part -- the Officers could have "sponsors". What you are seeing is me in my uniform as a "sponsor". We were to march around and "look pretty".

The guy you are looking at on the other side of me is one of my dearest friends. I am lucky to have the most and longest friends (over 40 years) of anyone I know.

This person graduated from college like all of us, and was sent to Vietnam where he flew Hueys. He came home, took courses on the GI bill and was hired by Delta Air Lines. He just retired after 31 years and 22,000 miles. He has flown every aircraft in the fleet. His son flies for AirTran.

I am blessed to have extrordinary friends such as these. I am so proud of all of them.

We were at Barksdale Air Force Base for some event or other when Dr. Von Braun showed up. Of course, everyone went "gasp"! I just went over to him and said, "hello". You know,I can't for the life of me remember what we talked about.

Sorry, didn't mean to go on. Thanks for asking.


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