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Topic: [RR Auction] Space Exploration (Apr 2024)
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SpaceAholic
Member Posts: 5343
From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 03-25-2024 02:41 PM
   
RR Auction's April 2024 Space Exploration and Aviation auction is now online. Bidding closes on the 398 lot sale on April 25. |
mf451
Member Posts: 86
From: NY, NY
Registered: Nov 2014
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posted 03-26-2024 11:59 AM
RR’s separate Autograph and Artifact auction (also going on right now) also has a pretty robust assortment of space items. |
Michael1976
Member Posts: 109
From: MA
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted 03-26-2024 09:23 PM
Lot 4417 - signed Earhart postal cover. I believe this to be a forgery. A few years back, an eBay seller known as billsbargainstamps littered eBay with Earhart, Noonan, Lindbergh and Doolittle signed covers. All seemingly signed in the same hand. This Earhart is a classic representation of those covers. Slowly signed, almost drawn, starts and stops, blobs within the signature. Nothing like her flowing, swooping signature. I am shocked and disappointed that PSA pre-certified this. |
BLivingston
Member Posts: 63
From: Boston,Ma. USA
Registered: Jan 2010
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posted 03-27-2024 12:54 PM
Thank you Michael. We are grateful for the heads up. This item has been withdrawn from the auction. |
Ken Havekotte
Member Posts: 3808
From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 03-27-2024 02:14 PM
Also of note there are many astronaut signed bright orange flight suits in this current auction, starting with Lot 4009 of a John Glenn signed USAF flying suit, that I have never seen nor heard before. Note the large NASA meatball later version patches on them along with unofficial (not era) flight emblems. Even for the Glenn lot, he was never an Air Force pilot, but with the Marine Corps. The orange suits in my opinion may have no official status to any authentic flight suits that might had been used one time or another. |
ChrisCalle
Member Posts: 203
From: Ridgefield, CT
Registered: Jan 2009
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posted 03-27-2024 04:28 PM
Michael, do you have any examples of images of other Earhart, Noonan, Lindbergh and Yeager covers that are suspect? That would be helpful going forward to catch signatures that may not be genuine. |
Michael1976
Member Posts: 109
From: MA
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted 03-27-2024 06:36 PM
These covers pop up all the time on eBay. It’s always a period cover, signed in faint fountain pen in the top left corner. Slowly drawn, almost copied. Here is one on eBay - 276346978052. Almost identical signature. Overlay the two. Also look at all the Doolittle autographs that the same dealer has sold. And Henry Ford and Howard Hughes. Not real, in my opinion. These littered eBay about 5-7 years ago. I had sent a message to Steve Zarelli notifying him of these covers. |
Spaceflyer
Member Posts: 220
From: Nauheim, Germany
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 04-03-2024 04:34 AM
Lot 4263 is an interesting artifact.The provenance is not documented or certified as to whether this is really a flightsuit worn by Dave Scott. The Kings Point tag, patches and nametag are not conclusive proof, are they? What does anyone think? Any info is much appreciated. |
SpaceAholic
Member Posts: 5343
From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 04-03-2024 10:47 AM
Lot 4263 description has been adjusted. |
Ken Havekotte
Member Posts: 3808
From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 04-03-2024 10:51 AM
How about the other orange flight suits mentioned earlier? Is there any other information or provenance about them? |
SpaceAholic
Member Posts: 5343
From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 04-03-2024 10:56 AM
Lot 4009 makes no claim of Glenn having used or owned the suit, only that he signed it. |
cole505
New Member Posts: 4
From: United States
Registered: May 2013
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posted 04-03-2024 11:12 AM
The Dave Scott Flight suit is my item. I purchased it from an Aurora auction but have misplaced the COA from Dave Scott. I am thinking of pulling that item since I still cannot locate the COA. |
Ken Havekotte
Member Posts: 3808
From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 04-03-2024 11:37 AM
Getting back to my prior post above from March 27th, the whole series of astronaut signed orange flight suits do not have original era patches on them in addition to a few other observations. They seem to be commercial or souvenir issues never used as actual flight suit garments. |
Rick Mulheirn
Member Posts: 4569
From: England
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 04-05-2024 06:24 AM
Lot # 4031. The COA from Dave Scott and the food packages accompanying it do not correlate. The COA includes a skin cleaning towel and makes no mention of chocolate cubes. |
SpaceAholic
Member Posts: 5343
From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 04-05-2024 04:10 PM
Lot 4031 will be corrected. |
Tallpaul
Member Posts: 220
From: Rocky Point, NY, USA
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 04-10-2024 10:10 AM
I have consigned a number of items to RR. I had hoped they would be in the Space Auction but most of them ended up in the monthly auction. I am surprised that in that auction there are two items have not yet received a bid. One is an original Gemini 11 patch and the other is a Redless "D" patch. Both of these patches are very rare. I am selling off parts of my space collection to help build the endowment of a scholarship that two students created in my honor at Stony Brook University. The endowment is currently over a 100K but with more funds it can support more students. |
Doki
Member Posts: 18
From: Paris - France
Registered: Feb 2016
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posted 04-16-2024 07:59 AM
Here are a few items that interest me, but I don't live in the US. Is there anyone who has won an auction and lives outside the US (in the European Union in my case) who can tell me how it works? (tax, shipping, payment...)? |
rgarner
Member Posts: 1461
From: London, United Kingdom
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 04-16-2024 01:15 PM
Shipping is usually at a standard international rate and depends largely on the weight and dimensions of the piece. The larger/heavier it is, the more it costs to ship.Import and tax are generally around 5-15% of the total price, depending on your local tariffs. |
Zoo Keeper
Member Posts: 51
From: Akron, OH
Registered: Feb 2021
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posted 04-21-2024 01:06 PM
To further Rick's point about Lot #4031, the Gemini VIII press kit does not show that chocolate cubes were flown on that mission. The paper "Food for U.S. Manned Space Flight", while not always 100% accurate in its tallies, shows that chocolate cubes were not flown on any Gemini mission and instead were flown on two Apollo missions. The Whirlpool packaging does not lend itself to differentiating the item between programs in the way that other food packages do. Is it possible that Dave Scott misattributed this package as a flown Gemini VIII item, or does someone have further documentation that supports its provenance? |
stsmithva
Member Posts: 2099
From: Fairfax, VA
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 04-21-2024 02:27 PM
I'd like to call attention to a few of the more interesting and rarest of the lots I have in this auction. Perhaps you'd like to take a look - links to each item are underlined. Bidding would be nice too! - Apollo 14 Flown Beta Cloth Patch Signed by Alan Shepard
Here is an especially rare and desirable item: a square mission emblem beta cloth patch certified as flown by the mission commander. "This Apollo 14 insignia flown to the moon on board Kitty Hawk." Searches by myself and others of auctions from the last 40 years have not found a single other one with such a "flown" inscription written on it by Shepard. - Apollo 14 Film Swatch carried on the Lunar Surface by Alan Shepard - framed with an Edgar Mitchell Signed Photograph TAKEN WITH THAT FILM.
Sorry about the all-caps there. I just really hope people realize how cool this framed display is. Items carried by the Apollo astronauts on the lunar surface are of course quite rare, and here is one that connects to a large attractive signed photo, with an inscription that refers to that very film. I've never seen anything like it. - Joe Kittinger Signed Book - The Long, Lonely Leap
This 1961 hardcover is scarce and valuable even in unsigned examples. This is a desirable signed copy of the story of Kittinger's famous 102,000-foot jump. I managed to find two copies several years ago and sent them to Kittinger, along with a donation to the effort to keep an F4 on display in Orlando. He inscribed one to me, which I am keeping, and here is the other one. He had an absolutely fascinating and inspiring life. - Apollo Command Module Control Panel Signed by Fred Haise
An actual overlay control panel for an Apollo CM, which would have had the switches, dials, etc. for the Abort System and Launch Vehicle, including the label "Xlunar Inject" for the translunar injection that sent the spacecraft out of Earth orbit towards the moon. - Richard Gordon's Apollo 12 USS Hornet Plaque
Commemorative plaque presented to Apollo 12 Command Module Pilot Richard Gordon by the crew of the USS Hornet recovery ship.
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space1
Member Posts: 940
From: Danville, Ohio
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 04-21-2024 07:07 PM
While the Apollo panel, lot #4236, is a very nice artifact, especially given the subject matter of its labels and the Fred Haise autograph, it is not the type of overlay used on most panels of the flight vehicles. Most of the panels had overlays made of plastic backed with a thin electroluminescent lamp. They would have wires on the back for power to the lamp, as seen on this overlay panel.The panel in this lot is made of aluminum. On the back, note the lack of a part number and quality control stamps. It is probably the exact same size as the flight overlay, and I believe it would have been used in a trainer. It would have been at the lower left corner of the center panel, which would have had backlighting in the flight vehicle. So in my opinion, it is better not to describe it as the type used in the flight vehicle. But as I said, still a nice artifact for display. |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3210
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 04-25-2024 01:58 PM
It looks to me like the Gemini gauges (lots 4035 to 4040) are all from Gemini B, either intended for spacecraft or for ground test equipment like the Electrical Interface Substitute.It's a shame this wasn't indicated in the descriptions, as potential bidders might be thinking they're from the regular Gemini missions. |
MartinAir
Member Posts: 365
From:
Registered: Oct 2020
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posted 04-26-2024 09:06 AM
Is there a reason why the lot #4344: "cobra" cable sold for that much? Apollo 7 flown and then downgraded to a ground test equipment? |
DG27
Member Posts: 261
From: USA
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted 04-27-2024 01:31 PM
That cable is not a cobra cable. The cobra cable is the short cable with an angled connector that connects to the spacesuit or in-flight garment electrical harness and has a rocker switch in the middle of the cable for communication control. This cable connects between the cobra cable and the spacecraft. I don't see any indication of it being flown in the description. Not sure why it went for that amount except apparently at least two people really wanted it. |
MartinAir
Member Posts: 365
From:
Registered: Oct 2020
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posted 04-27-2024 04:59 PM
Thanks, Dennis. Actually, the umbilical cable is often called "cobra cable" and the control head is called "cobra head", see here.  |
DG27
Member Posts: 261
From: USA
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted 04-27-2024 06:32 PM
Ah, OK. Thanks for the correction. I have been calling it by the wrong name. Always good to learn something. |
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