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Topic: [Daniel Kelleher] Astrophilately (March 2021)
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NAAmodel#240
Member Posts: 341
From: Boston, Mass.
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 03-07-2021 10:26 AM
   
Leo Malz was a full-time space dealer going back to the 1960s. With his passing, Daniel F Kelleher Auctions will be offering his collection and dealer stock. The three principal portions of the sale are a very strong Aerophilately section from the estate of a Chicago collection formed in the 1930s, a substantial set of rocket mail, and space covers from the Malz estate. It includes hundreds of envelopes flown on Salyut, Mir, and ISS and well as well over a thousand autographs of astronauts and cosmonauts. It is rare that a philatelic auction has been so heavily populated with space-related material. The public sale will include mail, in-person, telephone, and live stream internet bidding. Advanced registration for the 16-17 March sale is required. |
abgoodies18
Member Posts: 23
From: Atlanta, GA
Registered: Feb 2017
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posted 03-09-2021 07:47 PM
This is an interesting auction. The early air mail, rocket mail, etc. covers are really nice.Looking at the space flight covers there seems to be many, many questionable autographs. |
yeknom-ecaps
Member Posts: 718
From: Northville MI USA
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 03-10-2021 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by abgoodies18:
... there seems to be many, many questionable autographs.
I have also heard this same comment from multiple collectors who have viewed the auction. Brings down the integrity of the entire auction and auction house. |
NAAmodel#240
Member Posts: 341
From: Boston, Mass.
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 03-11-2021 10:08 PM
I am responsible for this auction and have tried to be careful about autopens and forgeries. I welcome feedback on signatures collectors are concerned about. |
rgarner
Member Posts: 1289
From: Shepperton, United Kingdom
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 03-12-2021 04:18 AM
I suggest you reach out to Zarelli Space Authentication and pay for his email opinions. It is worth the expense when you consider the consequences of selling even a single forgery. |
Ken Havekotte
Member Posts: 3198
From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 03-12-2021 05:40 AM
Is anyone else having trouble with Kelleher Auctions in trying to register with an approval to participate in this auction? I have been turned down, but I wasn't notified as to why my application was denied. It may be that I was not able to view their video instructions on my computer, but hey, this would be the first auction house that has denied my participation within decades of working and successfully bidding with dozens of other auction firms. |
NAAmodel#240
Member Posts: 341
From: Boston, Mass.
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 03-12-2021 08:19 AM
Ken, I'm responsible for writing the lot descriptions for the Malz sale. Your registration was not rejected (but had not yet been approved). You are all set. Anyone with questions about a lot or an issue registering for the auction is welcome to contact me. Hope to see all with an interest in Astrophilately on Tuesday and Wednesday.  — David |
MarkRP
Member Posts: 178
From: Michigan, USA
Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 03-12-2021 09:00 AM
I experienced the same thing with being denied approval to bid in this auction. I've participated in many online auctions with most of the major auction houses for many years. This is what the auction website says "The Auction firm has reviewed your registration and you are not approved to bid with this firm." Maybe it was a good thing I was denied if many of the items have been deemed questionable. |
Ken Havekotte
Member Posts: 3198
From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 03-12-2021 09:41 AM
It sounded like (same above as Mark just posted) "reviewed and denied" instead of indicating something like, "under review or being considered." I went back to their website in trying to re-locate that phrase, but it was deleted, and said "you are approved." But it did say "denied" when I tried to log on to the auction site this morning and thanks to David for getting me back on. Also, David, what online auction firms, like Invaluable, may be running the live auction site next week if not just by Kelleher itself?Some of the astronaut signed material had been correctly identified as either autopen or secretarial from what I have seen thus far. There were, however, a few others that I found were autopens and early secretarial patterns, but they had not been listed as such. |
NAAmodel#240
Member Posts: 341
From: Boston, Mass.
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 03-12-2021 10:19 AM
The sale is carried live on Stamp Auction Network. Available to assist Mark and anyone else who has found the registration process unhelpful. It is inevitable that in a thousand lot sale there will be questions. Please forward lot numbers of interest or concern. |
NAAmodel#240
Member Posts: 341
From: Boston, Mass.
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 03-12-2021 11:35 AM
Anyone who needs assistance registering for the Aero/Astro sale can contact me direct at (203) 830-2500 Ext 503. |
abgoodies18
Member Posts: 23
From: Atlanta, GA
Registered: Feb 2017
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posted 03-12-2021 11:53 AM
These issues discussed and others make any collector give pause and question the curating of this auction. This is problematic and maybe deceiving especially to novice collectors.Some of the descriptions in the large lots make one question what am I not seeing and why? |
NAAmodel#240
Member Posts: 341
From: Boston, Mass.
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 03-12-2021 12:55 PM
In addition to the printed catalog, the expanded website catalog and in-person viewing (in compliance with Connecticut COVID rules) I'm available between now and the sale (working in the office this weekend) for personalized video viewing if bidders need to see a lot. Whatever we can do to be of service. |
Tallpaul
Member Posts: 201
From: Rocky Point, NY, USA
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 03-12-2021 01:57 PM
A few months ago I registered with this auction house. It did take a couple of weeks for them to complete their due diligence. |
gareth89
Member Posts: 337
From: Ireland
Registered: May 2014
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posted 03-12-2021 03:43 PM
I registered and got approved for bidding today, just be patient and you’ll be in! |
Tallpaul
Member Posts: 201
From: Rocky Point, NY, USA
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 03-16-2021 06:17 PM
This was an interesting auction and I managed to win a few items I wanted at reasonable prices. I do have a question for the veteran cover collectors. Does gluing a newspaper picture or clipping to a signed cover devalue the cover? |
cosmos-walter
Member Posts: 716
From: Salzburg, Austria
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 03-17-2021 01:40 PM
Paul, I am preferring plain covers. As other collectors see it the same way, gluing newspaper clippings on a cover lowers the price. |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3155
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 03-17-2021 03:17 PM
I never did get approval despite trying several times to request it through the site. Not sure how they managed that. |
Tallpaul
Member Posts: 201
From: Rocky Point, NY, USA
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 03-17-2021 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by cosmos-walter:
...gluing newspaper clippings on a cover lowers the price.
Walter, thank you. I suspected that to be the case. I thought it ruined the cover especially when parts of an address or a cachet were covered up. |
cosmos-walter
Member Posts: 716
From: Salzburg, Austria
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 03-18-2021 04:14 AM
Paul, only on a scarce cover which I cannot acquire other I would allow glued on newspaper clippings. |
cosmos-walter
Member Posts: 716
From: Salzburg, Austria
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 03-18-2021 04:22 AM
I won four lots from Leo's estate. They include a not backdated Friendship 7 USS NOA with early Glenn signature, two Gagarin signatures on April 12, 1961 Moscow covers (with OK from Steve Zarelli) and especially the Soyuz 4/5 cover with four special postmarks done in Baikonur. It was signed just 2 or 3 days after landing. |
prontouk
Member Posts: 70
From: Scotland
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 03-18-2021 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by spaced out:
I never did get approval...
Me neither, shame as was interested in a couple of Soviet items.
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NAAmodel#240
Member Posts: 341
From: Boston, Mass.
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 03-20-2021 05:00 PM
To anyone who wanted but was unable to register let me again suggest you contact Kelleher for assistance. Stamp Auction Network is confusing and it is in everyone's best interest to be able to bid. quote:
Originally posted by cosmos-walter:
...the Soyuz 4/5 cover with four special postmarks done in Baikonur. It was signed just 2 or 3 days after landing.
Walter, I had my eye on that Soyuz 4/5 as well. What a great item. |
MartinAir
Member Posts: 36
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Registered: Oct 2020
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posted 03-20-2021 11:50 PM
Interesting auction indeed. Seems like not that many bidders were allowed in. |
cosmos-walter
Member Posts: 716
From: Salzburg, Austria
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 03-22-2021 07:19 AM
David, Steve Zarelli regards the early Soyuz 4 and 5 signatures as likely authentic. The postmarks are from Baikonur without scratch in the rocket's top. In my collection this great items will have good company: The final drawing of the stationary from Slave Klochko's collection as well as the letter Vladimir Shatalov's wife sent to her husband. |
NAAmodel#240
Member Posts: 341
From: Boston, Mass.
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 03-22-2021 08:46 PM
Walter, you were the one who tipped me off that it was extra special. Glad you got it. Perhaps sometime I can come and visit it. |
cosmos-walter
Member Posts: 716
From: Salzburg, Austria
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 03-23-2021 09:44 AM
David, your are gladly invited to see my collection. Hopefully there will also be international FIP exhibitions we can meet, again. |
thisismills
Member Posts: 404
From: Michigan
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 03-25-2021 06:22 PM
delete my post please. |
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