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Topic: [Prop Store] 'First Man' Gemini suit (Aug 2020)
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Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 44528
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 08-05-2020 12:55 PM
   
Prop Store's next entertainment memorabilia live auction in Los Angeles, Aug. 26-27, 2020, includes the Neil Armstrong's (Ryan Gosling) Screen-Matched Gemini Spacesuit: Neil Armstrong's (Ryan Gosling) screen-matched Gemini spacesuit from Damien Chazelle's biographical drama "First Man." Armstrong wore his spacesuit while commander of the Gemini 8, prior to his historic assignment commanding Apollo 11.The spacesuit features a white polycarbonate helmet with a clear visor, yellow blended-fabric interior padding and ear covers, metal detailing, and a large metal neck ring connecting it to a white blended-fabric bodysuit with a blue polyester-blend lining, nylon straps, metal buckles, blue and red metal hose connectors, a black patch reading "N.A. Armstrong", a Gemini 8 patch, a NASA patch, a United States flag arm patch, a small prop pressure gauge with a printed decal face, four leg pockets, a metal zipper running down the back and between the legs, zipper enclosures near the wrists, and blue and red functional metal wrist rings that secure the white and yellow blended-fabric gloves. The spacesuit is marked inside "Ryan Gosling Hero". The costume screen matches to the film and a promotional still, and also worn by Gosling for an appearance on the Jimmy Kimmel show. It is in excellent overall condition with minimal wear from production.  |
mode1charlie
Member Posts: 1214
From: Honolulu, HI
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted 08-05-2020 03:10 PM
If I'm not mistaken, this suit was made by Global Effects. (I believe Ryan Nagata made the X-15 suits and Apollo gloves for the film, but not the Apollo or Gemini suits.)
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Altidude
Member Posts: 69
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Registered: Jan 2016
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posted 08-05-2020 06:48 PM
The estimate is $20-$30k. Do you think that it was the popularity of the movie, the character, the actor, or the quality of the reproduction that gives it its value? Also, there have been many NASA movies, i.e. "The Right Stuff," "From the Earth to the Moon," "First Man," etc., what do you suppose would collectors rank as the most desirable movie spacesuit to own and display? |
328KF
Member Posts: 1281
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Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 08-05-2020 07:16 PM
I don’t think the popularity of the movie, the actor, nor the quality of the reproduction justifies that price. But I don’t put a lot of value in objects just because they appear in a movie, no matter how good it is. Some folks do, and that’s fine. Different market. |
Altidude
Member Posts: 69
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Registered: Jan 2016
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posted 08-06-2020 01:04 PM
I can understand your feelings, however, some think differently. For instance, Le Voyage dans la Lune probably inspired early rocketry and was the first to present the concept of an earth rise. I would think that "props" from this movie would be historically significant. When it comes down to it, we are just really collecting tangible connections to history. Just because it wasn't actually used in NASA or space, doesn't mean that there can't be crossover appeal. |
p51
Member Posts: 1680
From: Olympia, WA
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 08-06-2020 04:34 PM
$20-30K? It'll probably go for more, especially when you consider who wore the thing. quote:
Originally posted by 328KF:
I don’t think the popularity of the movie, the actor, nor the quality of the reproduction justifies that price.
Not for you, maybe, but movie prop/costume collecting is a big hobby, probably bigger than space collecting and with people even more so ready to plunk down amounts that an "average" person would consider insane.Just look up what happened when the props and costumes for the TV series re-boot of the sci-fi show "Battlestar Galactica" got sold off. My all time favorite was the production-made backup for a single sheet of paper, not even screen-used, went for almost $500. Background costumes, mostly altered military BDU sets, went for well into the four-digit range. You don't even want me to get started for the heavy-hitters in the collecting field when it comes to famous productions like "Gone with the Wind," or a movie/TV show with that level of brand recognition. A pair of the famed ruby slippers worn by Dorothy in the 1939 movie "The Wizard of Oz," went for $666,000 dollars in 2017. The pair wasn't even the only pair made for the movie and nobody was sure if they were even used on screen. This is what you should be looking at. No, I think those estimates are actually low for what this will sell for, especially since suits made by this company don't often get into public hands. Imagine if they sold off one of the Apollo EVA suits used in the film. That'd go for a lot of coin! |
328KF
Member Posts: 1281
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Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 08-06-2020 09:29 PM
Well, like I said, “Some folks do, and that’s fine.”“Screen used” simply doesn’t mean anything to me or my wallet, although I do admire the work of people like Ryan Nagata and his attention to detail. |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3124
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 08-07-2020 03:55 AM
As mentioned above the movie/tv prop collecting scene is a whole different world to that of space collectibles and the amounts realized at the big auctions are quite amazing.Where it becomes most obvious is when there is some kind of crossover. It may sound crazy but a movie prop version of a piece of NASA hardware used in Apollo 13 or First Man might actually sell for more than a genuine vintage Apollo mission flown example of the same item. |
rgarner
Member Posts: 1262
From: Shepperton, United Kingdom
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 08-07-2020 04:10 AM
One must also consider the fact that the majority of people don't actually know that our hobby exists — most believe everything is in museums.As someone who dabbles in the movie prop scene (mostly original Star Wars props), I can see the appeal. However, because I know what $20-30k can get me in flown memorabilia, I wouldn't be willing to bid on it. I'd rather have a flown memorabilia than a prop spacesuit. Prop collectors will see the same thing but in reverse. |
CMD_OVRD
Member Posts: 32
From: Dallas, TX
Registered: Jul 2009
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posted 08-07-2020 10:48 AM
Another example comes from the world of wristwatches. In 2015, Astronaut Dave Scott's lunar surface worn, one of a kind BULOVA wristwatch sold for just over $1.6 million including buyer's premium. This watch came with an awesome story to tell about Apollo 15, unauthorized equipment, lunar rovers, and even included some actual moon dust! Two years later a Rolex Daytona owned and worn by Paul Newman sold for over $17.7 million! This watch came with knowledge that Mr. Newman had worn it while doing Paul Newman things. While I personally don't understand that price gap, it demonstrates again that people place value on many different things for a variety of reasons. Space memorabilia is just one small corner of the collector world. |
Jurvetson
Member Posts: 105
From: Los Altos an SF, CA, United States
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 08-08-2020 10:02 PM
And the 2001: A Space Odyssey movie prop suit sold for $370K last month, alongside the hand controller Neil Armstrong used on Apollo 11... which also sold for $370K. |
Altidude
Member Posts: 69
From:
Registered: Jan 2016
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posted 08-27-2020 01:10 PM
Winning bid was 20k, not adding the 25% or taxes. All in all, I think that they got a good deal. | |
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