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Robert Pearlman

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From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 09-28-2017 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RR Auction release
Dan Schaiewitz's Apollo experience featured during RR Auction's Space and Aviation auction, Oct. 12-19

Dan Schaiewitz could say he literally breathed life into the space race.

As an engineer in the late 1960s, Schaiewitz worked at Cape Kennedy on the life support and oxygen systems astronauts would use during the Apollo 11 mission. "It was difficult to believe I would be a part of a team that would change science fiction to science fact," Schaiewitz recalled.

Schaiewitz's fascinating firsthand experience on the cutting edge of the future of space exploration is displayed in riveting detail during RR Auction's upcoming Space and Aviation auction, Oct. 12-19. His personal collection of photos of his own work journey and of the famed astronauts – and even of himself testing out Neil Armstrong's space suit by wearing it – offer a rare insider's glimpse into the United States' space program at its earliest – and perhaps arguably, most exciting – time period.

Also included in the offerings are autographs, checklists and behind-the-scenes training photos, postcards, media coverage and ephemera. There are patches and name tags from the astronauts. One exciting feature is the "flown items"; for example, Schaiewitz was told that "(Neil) Armstrong would like to include a memento of your choosing to fly with him to thank you for keeping them (he and Aldrin) safe during training." In this case, a tie tack from Schaiewitz. There's also an Apollo 14 flown item that was a gag gift for Alan Shepard that we will leave you to discover.

This is a truly comprehensive collection of space exploration memorabilia; but Schaiewitz's items are only part of a vast auction. The October auction will include, for the first time, an incredible selection of meteorites, and even a "moon rock" with certification from Apollo 16 moonwalker Charlie Duke. RR Auction is excited to offer these items in partnership with Geoffrey Notkin of Aerolite Meteorites and the Science Channel's award-winning Meteorite Men. There are many more rare and remarkable historical pieces for your perusal, including a vintage flight suit, dozens of models, and much more.

Auction preview is Sept. 28. Bidding begins Oct. 12 and continues through Oct. 19


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posted 10-11-2017 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ff27tls   Click Here to Email ff27tls     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lot 8321, Apollo Heatshield — I would like to bid on this piece but would like to know more about it. If someone would have any info on who made it, when, and for whom I would appreciate your feedback. Thanks.

Ken Havekotte

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From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001

posted 10-11-2017 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also in that same RR space auction release, or mentioned in the catalog's introduction itself, are — for the most part — unusual space artifacts from my own collection (more than 80 different lots featured). Many are one-of-a-kind space items never to be seen again.

But by all means, the highlight of this particular auction is the Dan Schaiewitz Apollo-era collection! You can't get any closer to the space program that Dan was, and working so closely with the astronauts themselves almost on a daily basis, both professional and on a personal friendship level.


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From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 10-14-2017 04:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by ff27tls:
Lot 8321, Apollo Heatshield
One clue bounding timeframe is the font... appears to be Ariel, developed in 1982 so this display would have been manufactured subsequently.


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posted 10-14-2017 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jimsz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The font does not appear to be Arial. The ascender and descenders are not correct. It could be a derivative of Arial or simply a similar font that arial is a derivative of. Arial is simply a knock-off font of which there are many flavors. The kerning is also unusual.

Tough to say without a hi res image to inspect.


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From: London, UK
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 10-16-2017 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lot 8406 - the headline says "lunar surface-flown" but his provenance statement says "used... in lunar orbit."


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From: Orlando, FL
Registered: Jan 2014

posted 10-16-2017 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chuckster01   Click Here to Email Chuckster01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that is just bad punctuation on RR's part.


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From: Menlo Park, CA, United States
Registered: Sep 2011

posted 10-16-2017 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jurvetson   Click Here to Email Jurvetson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My key takeaway: on the moon, there are 27 Shades of Grey.

Larry McGlynn

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From: Boston, MA
Registered: Jul 2003

posted 10-16-2017 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is a typo of RR's part. That will get changed. There is an interesting back story on the color wheels. I know of three wheels that exist that were used in lunar orbit.

Al Bean suggested the use of an art color scale to be used due to the different colors seen because of the change in lighting.

A wonderful piece with a good story.


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From: Boston,Ma. USA
Registered: Jan 2010

posted 10-17-2017 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BLivingston   Click Here to Email BLivingston     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for pointing that out! We at RR Auction strive for accuracy, and are always grateful for feedback from members of collectSPACE. The headline has been updated.

Please check out the full space auction lot. Bidding is live now, through this Thursday, Oct. 19.

We've also launched a new podcast channel on iTunes, as an informative companion to our auctions. This month we talked with Dan Schaiewitz and Geoff Notkin, and had a lot of fun hearing their incredible firsthand stories. Listen here.

Let me know personally if you have any other questions about the auction. Thank you!


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From: Salzburg, Austria
Registered: Jun 2003

posted 10-18-2017 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmos-walter   Click Here to Email cosmos-walter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A letter written by Yuri Malenchenko to Viktor Afanasyev with scarce special postmark "55 Years of Sputnik" is still unopened at 200$.

A handwritten letter present Duma deputy Maksim Surayev sent to his wife Anna with Space Shuttle Atlantis/STS-129 still is at 440$.

spaced out

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posted 10-20-2017 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like the auction went pretty well as I was certainly outbid on everything I was following. I think Dan's wonderful stuff was as popular as it should have been.

A few of the final prices overall were pretty amazing:

  • The NASA beta cloth patch removed from Armstrong's PLSS pre-flight (lot 8038) sold for a mighty $19,326.
  • An Apollo 13 crew patch and Lion Brothers patch (lot 8051) sold for $2,454, which is practically Bonhams level patch pricing.
  • An Apollo 1 crew patch (lot 8297) sold for a mind-boggling $8,485.


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From: Raleigh, NC USA
Registered: Aug 2017

posted 10-20-2017 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for denali414   Click Here to Email denali414     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some other shocking prices...
  • $15,197 for an Apollo 11 tie tack (5K est.)
  • $2,205 for a vintage Apollo 11 photo ($200 est)
  • $2,002 for a pair of Apollo 13 patches ($200 est)
  • $22,136 for an Apollo CM/LM model ($2,000 est)
  • $32,609 for a satellite light model ($2,000 est)


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From: Rocky Point, NY, USA
Registered: Feb 2012

posted 10-20-2017 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tallpaul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like Chris, I'm amazed at the price of the Apollo 1 patch.

There were a few items that I wish I had noticed and bid on, for example, the Apollo 7 flown flag presentation with what appears to be a vintage crew patch and the Apollo 9 flown star chart, even the Apollo 16 flown charms were relative steals. All of the aforementioned were truly bargains at the final hammer prices. But the price for the Apollo 1 patch just blows me away.

Retro Rocket

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From: Santa Paula, Ca,. USA
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posted 10-20-2017 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Retro Rocket   Click Here to Email Retro Rocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A good friend has the same Bell Labs Vanguard 1 with the working solar cells. I took a lot of measurements for my full scale replica, though mine will be more accurate like the Naval Research Lab's model. I found one of those in an antique store in Ventura for $200!

I let Roger Bell put it in his collection with the agreement if he ever sold the collection I would have first right of refusal. Well he didn't contact me and sold it through Superior around 2004, then the same model sold at Superior in 2008 for $18k.

For 2018, my Vanguard 1 replica to go with the Sputnik 1 and Explorer 1.


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From: Santa Monica, CA
Registered: Jun 2013

posted 10-20-2017 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neo1022   Click Here to Email neo1022     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't see many unexpectedly low prices by the time the hammer fell (although there was zero bidding during the post 7pm "30 minute rule" period — which was odd, and suggests that everyone was topped out early in the bidding).

The exceptions here might be the Gagarin signed portfolio, the flown STS-9 tribology drawers, and Worden's training used CSM Updates book. All came in lower than I'd expected.

Other than that, everything I had my eyes on was either higher (sometimes MUCH higher) than I expected, or close to the trend line based on previous auctions.

New Member

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From: Granville oh
Registered: Jul 2013

posted 10-21-2017 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alumtube   Click Here to Email Alumtube     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Incredible price for some of the items. Surprised to see the Vanguard 1 replica climbing that high. I would have no problem parting me from my identical replica for less money. Aluminum 1/32 Vanguard rocket would be included. Maybe I should contact a auctioneer to consign it.

I am actually surprised they called it a light model. Inside my model there is a battery compartment that holds two replacable mercury batteries ( a bit larger than the D-cell size, voltage and amperage ) with a on and off switch, ( supposely charged by the solar panels ) some components with a little speaker that is located on the underside ( when mounted to stand ) that will transmitt the sound it maked. Maybe the one in the auction was gutted.

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