Topic: [RegencySuperior] Space Auction (Jan. 2016)
Jared_5714 Member
Posts: 10 From: St. Louis, MO, United States Registered: Nov 2013
posted 12-07-2015 02:49 PM
RegencySuperior proudly presents its Space & Collectibles Public Auction on Wednesday, January 6th beginning at 11am (Central Time). More than 350 lots will go up on the auction block with live internet bidding directly on RegencySuperior's website and Invaluable.com.
This auction features the incredible collection of Roy Gutzke, space collector and co-author of the Astronaut Autopen Guide. Space art, flown memorabilia and of course, astronaut autographs are all part of the unique collection from the man who not only was lucky enough to meet these brave pioneers, but forged friendships over the years with his heroes. Below are a few items from the Gutzke collection (and others).
Starting with the Mercury program, there are several singular, multiple, and complete Mercury 7 autographs offered in several lots – on a baseball, crew photograph, and a First Day Cover. All featured with beautiful bold signatures of these early astronauts.
If flown items are a passion of yours, there are over a dozen flags, patches and other items to choose from. Lot 86 is a flown United Nations flag signed in Michael Collins' hand in black ink "Carried to the Moon/aboard Apollo XI Michael Collins." A true gem for any Apollo 11 or general space enthusiast.
A piece that will surely turn heads is a shuttle EVA movie prop space suit (Lot 256). Complete space suit in three pieces: helmet, top part with oxygen pack and pants with attached boots. Used for a shuttle film that was probably made for simulation purposes. Top part has two shoulder patches, one on each shoulder that includes USA flag and MMU (Manned Maneuvering Unit) suit patch. Also has NASA and shuttle patches attached to control unit on front along with connectors and switches.
The gem of Gutzke's collection has to be the stunning original painting titled "My Brother, Jim Irwin," an original painting by Alan Bean (Lot 328). Textured acrylic with Moon dust on aircraft plywood, 14x18", framed to 21x24". This highly textured, original work of art is a portrait of Apollo 15 astronaut, Jim Irwin. Done in shades of blue and a whole palette of pastels, this work is simply breathtaking. Includes 5x7" image of painting, transparency and Apollo art book where he explains the process behind creating this painting in both images, all signed by Bean.
The entire auction is now available online for viewing and bidding (absentee and Live bidding) at RegencySuperior.com. Free color catalogs are available by calling toll-free 1-800-782-0066.
For specific questions regarding this space auction, please contact Alan Lipkin. Good luck with your bidding!
Ken Havekotte Member
Posts: 2915 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
posted 12-07-2015 03:42 PM
Not to be a spoiler here, but the depicted "signed" Mercury Artcraft first day cover doesn't have any genuine autographs of America's first astronaut pioneers. In my opinion, all 7 of them are not authentic, but forgeries, even though Carpenter and Cooper are somewhat close with Glenn coming in as a third.
rgarner Member
Posts: 1193 From: Shepperton, United Kingdom Registered: Mar 2012
posted 12-07-2015 04:00 PM
Well Ken, you've spoiled it.
That said, while I'm no expert like Ken H. or Steve Z., I also have my reservations about a few of the signatures, Schirra in particular.
Ken Havekotte Member
Posts: 2915 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
posted 12-07-2015 04:36 PM
No "expert" here Richard, just my own personal opinions from many decades of collecting, nothing more.
SpaceAholic Member
Posts: 4437 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona Registered: Nov 1999
posted 12-07-2015 07:06 PM
Wow... lot 65 is flown — really???!!
FLOWN black 4.5"x7" "Saturn Data" loose leaf book by Douglas Aircraft containing 130 pages of charts, drawings and text that is organized in three tabbed sections: S-IV, S-IVB/S-1B, S-IVB/S-V and APPENDIX. Greatly detailed with several fold out pages. Specific mission on which the book flew is unknown. From the collection of Dr Anthony N Kontaratos, supervisor for group providing systems engineering support to Manned Space Flight Office at NASA.
rgarner Member
Posts: 1193 From: Shepperton, United Kingdom Registered: Mar 2012
posted 12-08-2015 04:14 AM
I would be interested to see how they knew it was flown, especially given that they can't place it on any particular mission, nor does the listing mention any form of documentation to point to that conclusion.
SpaceAholic Member
Posts: 4437 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona Registered: Nov 1999
posted 12-08-2015 06:02 AM
I'll go out on a limb and postulate the auction house took it on faith (based solely on word of the consignor) and was predisposed to apply the "Flown" caveat to enhance interest/valuation. If that's the process/threshold by which Superior defines provenance, should provide pause to anyone entertaining bids on other "flown" lots.
rgarner Member
Posts: 1193 From: Shepperton, United Kingdom Registered: Mar 2012
posted 12-08-2015 06:13 AM
I do hope that is not the case - it would be very disappointing if true.
Penney Kols Member
Posts: 38 From: saint louis mo usa Registered: Sep 2008
posted 12-08-2015 11:03 AM
quote:Originally posted by Ken Havekotte: Not to be a spoiler here, but the depicted "signed" Mercury Artcraft first day cover doesn't have any genuine autographs of America's first astronaut pioneers.
Thank you for your comments regarding Lot 35. We will review the autographs on this piece again.
Mercurypgm Member
Posts: 292 From: Houston, Tx Registered: Aug 2002
posted 12-08-2015 01:59 PM
Lot 217 is described as having a Stafford autopen in addition to the five crew members of ASTP.
That is incorrect. Both Stafford signatures are authentic but he obviously signed the cover twice. I feel certain that numerous well known collectors will concur.
Hopefully someone will concur that Lot 198 shows the construction of the Skylab covering that was installed during SL 2 (I) in order to save the Skylab missions.
Ken Havekotte Member
Posts: 2915 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
posted 12-08-2015 02:30 PM
That is correct about the Skylab repair parasol that had been used to shield the Orbital Workshop Station from the sun, also, both signatures of Stafford are indeed authentic on the same ASTP cover.
SpaceSteve Member
Posts: 428 From: San Antonio TX, USA Registered: Apr 2004
posted 12-08-2015 03:36 PM
I'm interested in what people think of lot 96. The Armstrong looks bad to me (the curve of the N and A is too exaggerated, and the paraph looks shaky/slowly drawn).
spaced out Member
Posts: 3110 From: Paris, France Registered: Aug 2003
posted 12-08-2015 04:47 PM
The Armstrong on lot 91 looks like a classic 'hooktail' to me, but I'd prefer to let a real expert give their opinion on it.
In terms of items being claimed as flown, lot 72 is another that seems odd. These mission analyzers are nice pieces but they were produced for people on the ground to follow the general timeline of events on the missions. I'm not aware that any of these were ever part of the Flight Data Files.
Ken Havekotte Member
Posts: 2915 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
posted 12-08-2015 05:10 PM
Agree with all the above and note that Lot 96 is a 10th anniv. postmark of the first manned lunar landing. The Apollo 11 crew stopped signing philatelic covers (with Aldrin being the latest to stop) shortly afterwards and note "Armstrong's signature" touches one of the postage stamps issued years after the epic lunar voyage. Just no way!
Mercurypgm Member
Posts: 292 From: Houston, Tx Registered: Aug 2002
posted 12-09-2015 08:00 AM
Ken, thank you for your prompt and appropriate response to my post on the Stafford and SL items. If you would like to contact me regarding some other issues please send me an email.
Michael Davis Member
Posts: 528 From: Houston, Texas Registered: Aug 2002
posted 12-15-2015 07:55 PM
Lot 141, the Mitchell signed Apollo 14 beta patch seems odd. Mitchell always seems to use "flown to the moon" for patches that were in lunar orbit only. Strange that "surface flown" would not be noted somehow on the patch itself if it had been. In this case, not even the "flown to the moon" notation is visible on the patch as framed. I'd be curious to see the COA.
Penney Kols Member
Posts: 38 From: saint louis mo usa Registered: Sep 2008
posted 12-22-2015 02:12 PM
Video of Roy Gutzke's Space Memorabilia collection featured in this auction, Wednesday, January 6th:
Mercurypgm Member
Posts: 292 From: Houston, Tx Registered: Aug 2002
posted 01-01-2016 09:31 PM
Just wanted to remind folks that the space auction is on the 6th. I have a number of lots up for auction and many have very reasonable reserves on some very attractive items. Please take a look and remember you can bid now at their website or live on the 6th. There are bargains to be had so happy hunting.
stsmithva Member
Posts: 1933 From: Fairfax, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2007
posted 01-04-2016 09:28 PM
Several cS members posted above about Lot 65, specifically how unlikely it is that it actually flew in space. I'll add that Lot 72, an Apollo 8 Mission Analyzer, has similar problems.
I'll write below what I wrote in an e-mail to a couple of people at Regency-Superior. I haven't received a reply, but I did only write two days ago.
Neither of these lots have writing on them, or a separate letter, from an astronaut describing them as flown. This was standard for mementos flown on the missions. Manuals actually used by the astronauts sometimes didn't have such documentation, but this is definitely not true in this case. Neither are items that would have been used by astronauts during a mission. Even though the Apollo 8 mission analyzer is described as "Interesting flight item that must have proved useful to the astronauts", these were in fact produced by the thousands as souvenirs. A wide, flimsy item showing the entire week-long mission would not have been handy when the astronauts had to use manuals with hundreds of events timed to the minute.
As for the Saturn Rocket Data Book, you'll notice that it contained general information about several kinds of rockets - not at all the kind of thing astronauts would have carried on a mission when they would need very specific information about the rocket they were on board.
To sum up, both of these items were produced in large numbers for general information for people on Earth, and would not have been useful for astronauts on a mission. If they had been flown as mementos (doubtful considering their size), there would have been documentation on them or accompanying them. There is not. There is no reason to think they were flown in space. If Kontaratos or his heirs say they were flown, he or they are mistaken. If someone who worked at NASA came to you with a NASA t-shirt and said that he thought Neil Armstrong wore it on the moon, you wouldn't believe him. I'm afraid this is a similar case.
UPDATE: I received an e-mail saying that they had issued errata to read "NOT flown."
Sam Que Member
Posts: 180 From: Chicago, IL, United States Registered: Feb 2009
posted 01-07-2016 05:00 PM
quote:Originally posted by Michael Davis: Lot 141, the Mitchell signed Apollo 14 beta patch seems odd.
I was watching this lot also since I have one that indicates flown to the moon but Dr. Mitchell's COA letter indicates lunar orbit. Did notice there was a correction to this lot recently.
Through the years I have purchased several items from Regency. Makes me a bit concerned to purchase from Regency in the future.