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Topic: [Nate Sanders] Jack Swigert mementos (May 2014)
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Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 04-09-2014 03:43 PM
collectSPACE Houston, we've got an auction: Apollo 13 astronaut's mementos to be sold...the mission mementos that [Apollo 13 astronaut Jack Swigert] kept as souvenirs are being put up for auction by the astronaut's family. The Los Angeles-based Nate D. Sanders auction house is planning to sell Swigert's artifacts as part of its May online auction. The sale's exact dates are still to be determined. According to an inventory shared with collectSPACE.com, the auction will include more than 20 lots from the Swigert estate...  |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 05-16-2014 01:20 PM
The Jack Swigert estate auction is now online. The sale ends May 29 at 7 p.m. CDT (0000 GMT May 30). |
rgarner Member Posts: 1193 From: Shepperton, United Kingdom Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 05-16-2014 04:57 PM
Pricey. |
Greggy_D Member Posts: 977 From: Michigan Registered: Jul 2006
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posted 05-16-2014 05:34 PM
Agreed. The opening prices are overly optimistic. |
stsmithva Member Posts: 1933 From: Fairfax, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 05-16-2014 05:47 PM
There are a couple of very rare items that will sell for tens of thousands. But most of them are things that have been seen before and the selling point is that they were owned by Swigert. That's certainly a valid point for a collector to consider, but yes, I think many of the opening bids are way high. The $3,000 for the six Apollo 8 flown-metal coins is an example. It came with a card with handwriting apparently by Swigert with notes like "Mom and Dad" to show who he wanted to give them to, but I've seen those coins sell for $29 each. |
YankeeClipper Member Posts: 617 From: Dublin, Ireland Registered: Mar 2011
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posted 05-18-2014 09:37 AM
Don't forget the 25% Buyer's Premium on all lots up to $99,999. Ouch!  |
moonnut Member Posts: 248 From: Andover, MN Registered: Apr 2013
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posted 05-18-2014 11:58 PM
No offense, but high overpricing is expected with Nate Sanders items. |
p51 Member Posts: 1642 From: Olympia, WA Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 05-23-2014 04:46 PM
I got a catalog the other day from them for this auction.Beats me where they got my address from, I've never contacted them before. Neat to look at some of the stuff, but WAY out of my price range for what I'd be willing to spend on any of it. Some had some very low initial bids, though. One Charles Schultz signed page of Snoopy cartoons only had a 300 opening bid if memory serves. I showed that to my wife. She has no ideas of values of stuff like that but even she said, "seems kind of cheap, wouldn't something signed by him be worth a lot more than that?" |
Hart Sastrowardoyo Member Posts: 3445 From: Toms River, NJ Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 05-23-2014 09:26 PM
Me too, got a catalog out of the blue. By far, in my opinion, the best piece is the John Young photo inscribed, "Jack, what the hell do you want this for?" |
spaced out Member Posts: 3110 From: Paris, France Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 05-24-2014 06:27 AM
The Young inscription is indeed a gem.The auction is packed with great stuff but unfortunately the opening prices are all set so high as to discourage most bidding. These same items listed at Heritage or RR would have sold like hot cakes - it would have been one of the space auctions of the year. Many of the items would likely have reached or surpassed the level of the opening bids in this NDS auction. The problem is that just setting the opening prices at such high levels kills an auction before it can even begin. In the past they suffered from another problem - overly-high hidden reserves. Now they seem to have turned those hidden reserves into overly-high opening prices. In my opinion they need to take a risk with much lower opening prices and low (or no) reserves if they want their auctions to flourish. Right now about the only major items selling are the Garland pencil and the badly listed Speedmaster watch strap. The watch strap is selling largely because it was not identified, which meant the opening price is actually reasonable. Unfortunately, the watch strap is really hurt by the fact that the accompanying COA doesn't even mention it, although it does picture it at least. I hope Nate D Sanders learns from this auction. They have great material but they just need to work on the way it's sold. |
uk spacefan Member Posts: 168 From: London Registered: Jan 2007
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posted 05-24-2014 07:54 AM
With these items coming from the Swigert estate, personally I'm not surprised at the high prices. With the greatest respect to Mr. Swigert, sadly because of his Senate campaign etc., his financial situation ended up in disarray. This also meant foreclosure on his mother's house, after she passed away. If this means that his sisters' families can recoup some of the wealth that they would have surely inherited, and given the current economic times, I wish them every success. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 05-29-2014 08:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by spaced out: The watch strap is selling largely because it was not identified...
The lot has now been updated: Lot also includes Swigert's NASA issued Omega velcro watch strap, worn by Swigert over his space suit, and likely space flown. Velcro strap with metal fastener is imprinted with code numbers P/N SEB12100030-202 / S/N 1067. |
ApolloEra Member Posts: 18 From: Sherman Oaks, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2013
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posted 05-29-2014 09:44 PM
I ended up getting outbid on both the strap/cover and the Apollo 13 flag. I agree with the prior comment about some of the other items hurt by having excessive opening bids.I was impressed by the final price for the flag which seems on the high side. I saw the recent change in the listing for the strap, but at that price (and here with a 36% surcharge, 25% + 9% CA sales tax) it was a shaky sell given provenance issues. It is unclear (although probable) that that is the strap Swigert wore on Apollo 13. Even the auction house called it "likely flown". |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 05-30-2014 03:42 AM
Nate D Sanders release Apollo 13 Astronaut Jack Swigert's Estate Sells for $225,000Apollo 13 astronaut Jack Swigert's estate sold last night (May 29) for $224,940, which includes the buyer's premium. The estate included his personal possessions from the Apollo 13 flight. The NASA Oral B-40 clear toothbrush Swigert used on his Apollo 13 mission sold for $11,794. The silver mechanical pencil Swigert used on Apollo 13 mission sold for $10,313. The pencil still works with the original graphite intact. "SEB 12100081-301" and "S/N 2015" is engraved in black to the side of the pencil. Swigert's own Robbins Apollo medal accompanied Swigert on the Apollo 13 flight. It sold tonight for $7,500. The sterling silver medal is housed in its original "Robbins Company" plastic box with the serial number 147 on a sticker affixed to the bottom of the box. The medal is cast with the Apollo 13 mission, three of Apollo's chariot horses flying toward the Moon, and the slogan "Ex Luna, Scientia." The medal's verso lists the crew members: "James A. Lovell Jr., Fred W. Haise Jr. and Jack L. Swigert Jr." along with the words, "Aquarius and Odyssey" and the launch and return dates of April 11, 1970 and April 17, 1970. The medal comes with a LOA from Swigert's sister. An Apollo 13 flown flag sold for $18,291. Swigert's space-flown earpiece and ear tube sold for $6,094. The most expensive item in the estate auction was Swigert's own Robbins medal for the Apollo 17 flight. It sold for $56,250. An Apollo 11 Robbins medal presented to Swigert sold for $34,375. Swigert, a Denver native, joined the NASA Astronaut Group 5 in April of 1965. He received the NASA Distinguished Service Medal for his heroics on the near-fatal Apollo 13 flight. In 1982, he was elected to the House of Representatives for Colorado's 6th congressional district, but died from cancer just eight days before he would have been sworn into office. All items from Jack Swigert's estate come with a Letter of Authenticity from his sister. Additional information on the Jack Swigert Estate can be found here. |
holcombeyates Member Posts: 243 From: UK Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 05-30-2014 08:52 AM
If the serial numbers on the strap and the cover correspond with the entries in the Apollo 13 flown equipment manifest, then we can assume that they are both flown?Does anyone know what the cover was used for? I understand that it was either a cover for the CM altimeter or a cover for the CM 'g' meter. Thanks. |
p51 Member Posts: 1642 From: Olympia, WA Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 05-30-2014 11:15 PM
I couldn't find the listings that have closed. What did Swigert's flight suit and jacket go for? |
spaced out Member Posts: 3110 From: Paris, France Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 05-31-2014 03:22 AM
Do you mean the mustard yellow flight suit? That didn't sell at $6,000. |
Besixdouze Member Posts: 235 From: Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire, United Kingdom Registered: Jan 2011
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posted 05-31-2014 05:51 AM
The flight jacket didn't sell either although it is now listed on the website with a BIN of $2,500. |
David Carey Member Posts: 782 From: Registered: Mar 2009
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posted 05-31-2014 01:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by holcombeyates: If the serial numbers on the strap and the cover correspond with the entries in the Apollo 13 flown equipment manifest, then we can assume that they are both flown?
Flown status would be hard to independently prove from the stowage list alone since the numbers listed are PART numbers versus serial numbers. Both part numbers appear on multiple mission stowage lists without serial numbers and, accordingly, the parts are not unique to Apollo 13 as I understand it. The cap would seem the most likely to have been flown since it is part of flight equipment versus crew equipment and of course Swigert's sister's letter states it as such. Seems pretty solid to me. In theory the strap could have been a training article that simply shared the same semi-standard part number as the flown strap. The certification letter (at least in its original form) doesn't seem to mention the strap. All that said, congratulations on the items and I certainly have nothing to contradict the notion of flown status in either case. Just pointing out the differences in numbering and the (unfortunate) absence of serial numbers in the stowage list as a unique identifier for either item. |