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natedsanders
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posted 11-28-2011 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for natedsanders   Click Here to Email natedsanders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Los Angeles-based Nate D. Sanders is having an Internet auction that ends on November 29th at 5 PM PST.

Among the highlights is a Neil Armstrong Autograph Letter Signed.

Nate D. Sanders is also auctioning flags flown on Apollo flights.

garyd2831
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posted 11-28-2011 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad to see that the extra STS-2 flag that I sold on eBay recently to Nate who took several days to pay but had no problem bidding on at the last second has made it to his auction. Not to mention his opening bid is about $10 less than what he paid for it. Final sale price was $356.76. Also you will notice some damage to the certificate along the left side (launch photo) that is failed to be mentioned. It can be found under lot# 45.

fredtrav
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posted 11-28-2011 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes he sniped it away from me at the last second. I had meant to bid on it the first time around but was waiting on some money to come in and did not want to take the chance I would not have it. Dont happen to have a second one Gary?

garyd2831
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posted 11-29-2011 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do have a second one, but that one I'm holding onto. Still looking for an STS-3 one to complete OFT series.

garyd2831
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posted 12-13-2011 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I see the flag that I sold on eBay to Nate Saunders Inc, which landed up on his auction is back on eBay with a asking price of $1,000 or best offer. I just have to say... WOW!

Spaceguy5
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posted 12-13-2011 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spaceguy5   Click Here to Email Spaceguy5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's price inflation like that that I think really hurts the hobby.

I could understand someone selling something in their collection if they don't want it anymore/need to free up room/have an emergency money situation, but buying up things just to resell them for significantly more does nothing but keep items out of the hands of the people who are going to respect them. Especially if they're asking for something totally ridiculous (which could either prevent it from ever being sold/circulated to serious collectors, or give newer people a false sense of its value).

garyd2831
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posted 12-13-2011 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The funny thing is, when I first posted the flag, I put a high buy it now price on it around $700 and guess what... it didn't sell. So I let the auction do its thing and it realized at $356.76.

No complaints here, but I hate price inflaters. Yes, it hurts the hobby and keeps things out of the hands of the true collectors who enjoy them. I only sell my extras every now and again, or sell an item to make way for something new coming in.

chet
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posted 12-13-2011 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chet   Click Here to Email chet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure I understand the logic here; are you saying that only "non-inflated" priced items can be enjoyed, and that someone paying a higher price for something isn't capable of appreciating its "true" value?

garyd2831
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posted 12-13-2011 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not saying that at all, just some of us are not made of money. That being said, I hate to see things turned around in a short period of time (couple of weeks at best) and trying to sell something way more than it is worth. That is the seller's own right, to do whatever they want, I just think it stinks and this is just my opinion, that's all.

chet
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posted 12-13-2011 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chet   Click Here to Email chet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've yet to see an item, in a legitimate sale with all parties apprised of all pertinent facts, sell for more than it is worth.

driftingtotheright
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posted 12-13-2011 03:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps a thing can be enjoyed more by some after paying a "non-inflated" price, but how can that be a mark of a "true collector"? I personally welcome expansion of the hobby to novices.

Spaceguy5
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posted 12-14-2011 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spaceguy5   Click Here to Email Spaceguy5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What you need to consider though is that to the guy who's made of money and can afford to carelessly throw some of it away, an item could be worth an order of magnitude more than what any reasonable person would pay for it. However most people are either poor or only have a normal income, and as such, would only settle for a reasonable price.

For example, I used to buy often from a seller on ebay who'd sell vintage NASA publications, stuff you could find for free in NASA's tech report server and for only $5-$20 max at other places on the web. There was one user who had a bot that would always throw down over $100 on every item he wanted at the last second of the auction. And of course someone else had a bot doing similar. Even after paying 10x the actual value a few times, he still kept doing it. Looking up his ebay user name, it turned out he was the CEO at a bank.

As for the "true collector" bit, I didn't mean someone isn't a true collector if they pay an inflated price (I think they'd be more of a victim). To me, a true collector is someone that buys something with the intent to, you know, collect it. Hold onto it, put it on display, take care of it, etc. And not to turn around and resell it for way more within a few months or less.

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