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connoisseur
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posted 06-02-2008 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for connoisseur   Click Here to Email connoisseur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a quick email to remind everyone that it is never too early to think about consigning your excess memorabilia to the Fall sale. I will be leaving June 6th for Dallas, June 7th for Houston (where I will be holding an Appraisal Clinic at the Hilton Clear Lake on June 8th, Florida on the 9th-18th, Huntsville on the 19th and Nashville on the 20th. If anyone would like to meet to talk about memorabilia in general, or a consignment in particular, I look forward to hearing from you. The schedule is rather tight as it stands now, but am always glad to talk to/meet old and new friends.

Michael Orenstein

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posted 06-03-2008 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sikotic19   Click Here to Email sikotic19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Michael,

Are you holding appraisal clinics in Huntsville and Nashville, or just have other reasons to be there? If yes, I'd love to try to attend one. I don't have anything I want to consign, but I need to get an appraisal for insurance purposes.

Regards,
Geoff

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posted 06-05-2008 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for connoisseur   Click Here to Email connoisseur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sikotic19:
Are you holding appraisal clinics in Huntsville and Nashville, or just have other reasons to be there?
No. Unfortunately, there won't be enough time. You are welcome to call me when I am in FL (6/9-6/17, ph 305-940-3724) and we can see if we can connect at one of the hotels - though it is a bit of a long shot. Anyway, the only Appraisal Clinic will be in Houston at the Hilton, Clear Lake by JSC.

If we cannot connect, perhaps we can do something via email after I get back on the 20th.

Michael

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posted 08-05-2008 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for connoisseur   Click Here to Email connoisseur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Final preparations are being made for consignments to the November 14, Ira & Larry Goldberg space memorabilia auction.

Highlights in the sale already include:

  1. The original presentation certificate, hand-signed by President Bill Clinton and presented to the family of Ed White II, awarding him the NASA Space Medal of Honor. Unique.

  2. Numerous flown and unflown pieces of memorabilia from the personal collection of the 8th Mercury Astronaut, Jose Jimenez, many unique.

  3. Unique FIRE EXTINGUISHERS flown on Apollo 14, 16, and 17 - with paperwork.

  4. Extensive flown flags/patches from later Shuttle flights.

  5. Numerous crew and flight patches from a wide range of Shuttle flights INCLUDING CANCELLED FLIGHTS.
The above is just mere token of the company YOUR MEMORABILIA can be included with in this sale. Don't you think your material will be in good company?

This is a FINAL CALL for consignments so an email to me, sooner than later, can insure you a place in this sale..

Talk to you soon...

Michael Orenstein
Director of Space Memorabilia
Ira & Larry Goldberg Auctions

connoisseur
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posted 10-05-2008 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for connoisseur   Click Here to Email connoisseur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Goldberg auction will be put to bed this coming week and catalogs should be in the mail by the end of this month. Some of the highlights in this unreserved sale include:
  1. extensive Bill Dana/Jose Jimenez memorabilia including his "First Honorary Astronaut" plaque, his "10th Anniversary Medal" flown by Alan Shepard to the lunar surface on Apollo 14, etc

  2. Two different "Randall Knives" encased in lucite

  3. a NASA Exceptional Service Medal, engraved, and awarded to Ed White after GT-4 with collateral documentation

  4. Multiple Lunar Rock Containment vessels

  5. the ORIGINAL NASA Space Medal of Honor certificate presented to the family of Ed White by President Clinton when they were presented with his medal in honor of GT-4 and Apollo 1

  6. an Apollo 1 autographed crew photo

  7. multiple handpainted Al Stevens concept Crew Patch paintings for diverse flights including Apollo 1, 7, 10, 11 and 17.

  8. an Apollo 10 presentation certificate with a flown patch and a flow US flag

  9. Flown "Orbital Photo Chart" and "Lunar Photo Map" charts

  10. The 18kt gold commemorative Omega watch presented to Dick Gordon engraved to him on the reverse

  11. the "First Flown Nickel" carried by Apollo 14 to the lunar surface

  12. three similar Fire Extinguishers flown on Apollo 14, 16 and 17, each complete with extensive NASA documentation

  13. Different SL-3" Astronaut Wives" patches and covers

  14. Deke Slayton's brass flashlight flown on ASTP

  15. a gold Robbins medallion (with diamond insert) flown on ASTP

  16. a spoon engraved with his name and used by Deke Slayton on ASTP

  17. a wide selection of flown flags carried on mostly later Shuttle flights

  18. Soyuz TM-33 flown "Porthole"

  19. two different Russian spacesuits including an Orlan-DMA EVA suit and a "Sokol-K rescue suit
If you don't already receive copies of this catalog, I will be glad to add you to our mailing list. You won't want to miss this sale.

Michael Orenstein

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posted 10-13-2008 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for connoisseur   Click Here to Email connoisseur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Important Notice for Prospective Bidders:

"Stretch Your Purchasing Power with our Payment Plan"

With an invoice total of $2,500 or more only. A down payment of 20% of total due required, interest of 1% per month on unpaid balance after 30 days from date of sale. NO INTEREST FOR THE FIRST 30 DAYS. Payments may be spread out over 5 months. Automatic credit card (Mastercard/Visa only) deductions may be arranged, not to exceed $5,000 per payment. Arrangements must be made prior to the sale by contacting Glenn Onishi at 310-551-2646. Lot(s) will be shipped following receipt of final payment. All other auction terms/conditions as listed in the auction catalog still apply.

Given the state of the economy here in the States and around the world, the above is our economic recovery plan. Hope you "vote" in favor of it.

This is a sale you will not want to miss. Let me know if you have any questions. Remember, the sale is November 14th and catalogs will be going out shortly.

I will be attending the Space Memorabilia Show at the NASA Glenn Research Center in Cleveland, Ohio (this weekend, October 18-19). I'd love to meet any of you that live in the area. This will be my first visit to the Cleveland. Hope it doesn't snow....

Michael Orenstein

connoisseur
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posted 10-22-2008 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for connoisseur   Click Here to Email connoisseur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Catalogs for the Goldberg sale will be in the mail on Thursday, October 23rd (tomorrow) for those of you already on our mailing list or those who have already requested copies. In the meantime, the sale is already on our website and will be on eBay by tomorrow also.

I look forward to your question and comments - hope I can answer them.

Michael Orenstein

DChudwin
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posted 10-31-2008 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DChudwin   Click Here to Email DChudwin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I received the catalog yesterday. It is well-illustrated and has some great items. I wish I could afford to bid on the Apollo 1 crew-signed photo. There are a lot of flown patches and flags, as well.

I like getting the catalog more than 2 weeks before the auction-- it gives time to do some studying and strategizing.

space1
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posted 11-06-2008 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for space1   Click Here to Email space1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe lot 146, Apollo 16 Charlie Duke family photo, may be misinterpreting the meaning of Duke's inscription. Maybe this has already been cleared up in some past discussion. But I just had a look at this lot and I wonder if there's a misunderstanding.

Duke's inscription thanks the photographer for taking the family picture. The first photo is a print of the family's picture. The second photo shows the family picture on the lunar surface. Duke says, "This one flew to the moon aboard Apollo 16."

The lot description takes this to mean that the photo print presented in the lot IS the photo print shown on the lunar surface. My understanding is that Duke left the family photo print on the lunar surface. Duke's inscription may mean he took the extra photo print with him on Apollo 16, and perhaps only to lunar orbit. Or it could mean that "this one," as in, the one print shown in the photo at right, went to the moon.

At any rate, I'm confused. If necessary I hope Charlie Duke can clarify this.

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connoisseur
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posted 11-11-2008 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for connoisseur   Click Here to Email connoisseur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had the opportunity to peronally ask Charlie Duke about this lot (lot 146 in Friday's Goldberg auction) at the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation's Autograph Show this past Friday. He remembered Ludy, and this photo, and verbally confirmed to me that yes, this was the photo he took to the lunar surface, carried it back to earth and presented it to Ludy Benjamin, the photographer who originally made the family photo. Hope that this helps clear up the confusion.

Michael Orenstein

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posted 11-12-2008 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On the Lunar Surface Journal there's an image of the photo on the surface.

The photo is very warped, which could be corrected by mounting, but also looks creased at the bottom. I would expect some trace of the creasing at least to be visible on the photo in this presentation (when viewed in person). Can you confirm if this is the case?

connoisseur
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posted 11-12-2008 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for connoisseur   Click Here to Email connoisseur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I now must admit to an inadvertent misinterpretation of my description for lot 146. I had the actual photo examined this morning and there are no signs of a tear or wrinkles on the photo. Based on the photo referenced in the previous comments, there should be if this is the actual photo from the moon. My mistake was in making the assumption that we were dealing with only one photo and not with multiple images. When I showed the lot to Charlie Duke on the catalog page, his comment was that "yes, I remember that photo and Ludy. Yes, the photo WAS on the lunar surface - or words to that effect". Had I had any inkling that we were dealing with multiple images, I might have probed further. I just took his statement at face value, that the photo flew, therefor it was as pictured, the one on the lunar surface. Please accept my apologies. I will announce the change on the floor and most it to the internet correction list.

Michael Orenstein

PS. Anything else I need be concerned about?

mjanovec
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posted 11-14-2008 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recall Duke once saying that the photo he placed on the lunar surface developed those wrinkles very quickly and started to turn black shortly after he snapped a photo of it laying on the surface. Besides, it would appear that the photo placed on the lunar surface was meant to stay there and not be returned...much like other objects that other astronauts brought with them to the moon.

davidcwagner
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posted 11-15-2008 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for davidcwagner   Click Here to Email davidcwagner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I won Item 144 Apollo 15, Lunar Module Range/Rate Indicator Gauge for a reasonable $1,250 ($1,500 with commission). Other items ($1,100 for a Flown A-7 Robbins) seem to have sold low with a few exceptions, especially the Moon Rock Containment Vessels.

Why was Item 139: Apollo 14, 1971, Moon Rock Containment Vessel so high at $5,000 ($6,000 with 20% commission) when the pre-auction estimate was $350-$500?

What was your overall impression of this auction?

David Wagner

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posted 11-15-2008 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LCDR Scott Schneeweis   Click Here to Email LCDR Scott Schneeweis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by davidcwagner:
Why was Item 139: Apollo 14, 1971, Moon Rock Containment Vessel so high at $5,000...
Irrational exuberance

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I thought the prices were pretty low overall. The turnover rate of items was pretty fast though - there were a couple of items I would have bid on but they appeared and closed so fast I simply didn't have time to react.

There were some exceptions to the low prices - e.g. the Al Stevens artwork which fetched an enormous amount in total (bearing in mind the prices they originally fetched on eBay).

davidcwagner
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posted 11-18-2008 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for davidcwagner   Click Here to Email davidcwagner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anybody gotten an invoice yet? I emailed several times with no response.

David Wagner

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posted 11-19-2008 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No invoice yet as well. I have e-mailed as well and have no response.

andrewcli
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posted 11-21-2008 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andrewcli   Click Here to Email andrewcli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just received my invoice.
Andrew

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posted 11-21-2008 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joel Katzowitz   Click Here to Email Joel Katzowitz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got mine yesterday.

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posted 11-23-2008 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunar rock nut   Click Here to Email Lunar rock nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Received mine on the 20th.

Terry

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posted 11-27-2008 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo-Soyuz   Click Here to Email Apollo-Soyuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will a list of the prices realized be put on the website? I like to print out the list and put it with the catalog.

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Joel Katzowitz
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posted 11-27-2008 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joel Katzowitz   Click Here to Email Joel Katzowitz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The hammer prices are already posted on the Goldberg Coins website John. I looked through them yesterday, and saw several items I should have bid on!!!

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posted 12-06-2008 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunar rock nut   Click Here to Email Lunar rock nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Received my (HRSI) tile yesterday afternoon. Posted this for those of you that may be waiting on items.

Terry

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posted 12-06-2008 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andrewcli   Click Here to Email andrewcli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just picked up my Apollo 17 flown flag ;-)

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posted 12-24-2008 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dsenechal   Click Here to Email dsenechal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I went to the Goldberg web site to look at the catalog for last month's November auction. Although there's a link, it leads to nowhere and the catalog isn't available. Does anyone have any info on this, or perhaps could share a pdf version? Thanks. Dave

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