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Topic: 3/31/07 Swann Space Exploration
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Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-12-2006 11:36 AM
   
Swann Auction Galleries has announced the date for their next Space Exploration auction:March 31 at 2:00 pm . Sale 2109
SPACE EXPLORATION
Illustrated Catalogue $35* * The catalog is not yet available. |
mconway
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posted 12-15-2006 12:46 AM
Thank you for keeping CS members up to date on auctions. A great value to all. |
413 is in
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posted 12-15-2006 02:56 PM
Now all we have to do is save enough money to participate in the Big 3 (Swann, Regency, Auora). I think I could use a part-time job just to finance my collection. Do you have any openings Robert?  (rhetorical) ------------------
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Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-18-2007 04:50 PM
Swann Galleries has published a brief preview of their upcoming Space Exploration auction in the current issue of The Trumpet, their newsletter: quote:
Our fifth annual Space Exploration auction on Saturday, March 31 includes part one of the extensive space collection formed over 25 years by Ed Rees, which is, in essence, a tour of the Space Race. Highlights include a first day of issue postal cover with signatures of all 7 Mercury Astronauts ($3500/4500); a signed photograph of the Apollo i crew, who died in a launch pad fire in 1967 ($10,000/15,000); a U.S. flag carried on Apollo 11 ($8000/10,000); and a briefing document for a meeting held with the Space Shuttle crew a day before launch of the ill-fated STS-107 ("Columbia"), signed by the entire crew, who were lost during re-entry ($5000/7000). On a lighter note, the collection includes space toys and games from the 1950's and 60's, and rare space model kits from that period. The sale also features flown Apollo 11 items from the Buzz Aldrin collection, and flown Apollo 13 material from the Fred Haise collection. There are desirable photographs, documents, and charts signed by the Apollo 11 astronauts and other flight crews; items from the early Mercury and Gemini flights, and flown Skylab artifacts from the Paul Weitz collection.
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posted 02-20-2007 07:54 AM
Does anyone know when the Swann Space auction will go online? |
Larry McGlynn
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posted 02-20-2007 01:31 PM
I heard that Swann has estimated that it will post the auction on line at their site sometime between the end of the first week and the beginning of the second week in March. The catalog goes to press in the next week. ------------------
Larry McGlynn
A Tribute to Apollo |
Larry McGlynn
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posted 03-11-2007 05:28 PM
The Swann Space Exploration auction catalog has been printed and initial distribtion (mailings) started on Friday March 9. On-line version should be up on the Swann web site www.swanngalleries.com around March 12 or 13. Ebay Live should be 7 days before the March 31 sale itself. |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-12-2007 11:33 AM
The catalog is now online. |
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posted 03-16-2007 09:31 PM
I received my catalog in the mail today more than two weeks before the sale. From past experience I can say that this is one well-run organization!------------------
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Peter Kemp
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posted 03-17-2007 04:07 AM
Agreed. I received my Swann Catalogue here in the UK in this morning's post------------------
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nasamad
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posted 03-17-2007 04:44 AM
Ditto, mine arrived during the week, some nice pieces in there. (Now for this weeks lottery win !) Adam |
Ken Havekotte
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posted 03-17-2007 01:14 PM
A few notes about the upcoming Swann space exploration auction; Please note that Lot #144 featuring a flown Apollo 15 Shamrock postal cover was not, as indicated in the catalog, carried in LM-Falcon to the lunar surface! There were only 8 of the Shamrock covers that were a part of Irwin's Command Module PPK-1178 contents listed as #15 on the command ship's manifest. Therefore, the covers did fly around the moon, but never landed in the lunar foothills of the Apennine Mountains. Next Lot, #145 ... Some other names from the signatures of those that I can see on the Apollo 11 presidential dinner plaque are; Apollo launch director Rocco Petrone, First KSC Director Kurt Debus and his wife Gay, and Air Force Maj. Gen. Davy Jones, then-Commander of the Air Force Eastern Test Range. |
SRB
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posted 03-17-2007 09:31 PM
For anyone interested in a much more detailed discussion of Irwin's Shamrock cachet covers and what items Irwin carried to the surface of the moon, you can look back to a thread posted on March 23, 2006 entitled Wanted: Apollo cover flown to the moon.Steve |
Ken Havekotte
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posted 03-18-2007 02:04 PM
Forgot to mention about another lot, #211, with the somewhat atypical Ron Evans on the Apollo 17 crew portrait. There are at least 3 or more concerns I don't like about the signature. Anyone else feel the same? |
Scott
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posted 03-18-2007 05:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ken Havekotte:
Forgot to mention about another lot, #211, with the somewhat atypical Ron Evans on the Apollo 17 crew portrait. There are at least 3 or more concerns I don't like about the signature. Anyone else feel the same?
I'm with you, Ken. I don't like the Evans at all.
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Michael
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posted 03-18-2007 08:31 PM
Hello,
How about the following three items
Lot # 89 Apollo 1 Signed Picture
Lot # 121 Richard Nixon and Neil Armstrong
Lot # 123 Neil Armstrong on litho Do they look authentic?? That Ron Evans sure doesnt look right....I think I am getting good at this. Mike
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Scott
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posted 03-18-2007 08:55 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Michael:
Hello,
How about the following three items
Lot # 89 Apollo 1 Signed Picture
Lot # 121 Richard Nixon and Neil Armstrong
Lot # 123 Neil Armstrong on litho
Lot #89 is very likely authentic IMO (one can never really be sure going only from an image this small).
Note that it bears a striking similarity to the authentic example on Bob McLeod's page:
http://www.eaglehaswings.freehomepage.com/photo6.html to the point where I believe they were likely signed not long apart.
On the bottom two items, the scans are too small for me to personally give a good opinion, though Lot 123 appears very promising based on what can be seen (IMO).
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Bob M
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posted 03-19-2007 08:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ken Havekotte:
Forgot to mention about another lot, #211, with the somewhat atypical Ron Evans on the Apollo 17 crew portrait. There are at least 3 or more concerns I don't like about the signature. Anyone else feel the same?
I agree, Ken. IMO the Ron Evans signature is too atypical to be considered authentic and the lot should be removed. I've looked over Swann's lots fairly well and must say that IMHO they have done a good job overall and are to be commended. A few minor glitches are to be expected and it looks like Swann has held their "glitches" to a minimum. Bob Mc. |
mjanovec
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posted 03-19-2007 09:58 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Scott:
Lot #89 is very likely authentic IMO (one can never really be sure going only from an image this small). Note that it bears a striking similarity to the authentic example on Bob McLeod's page:
http://www.eaglehaswings.freehomepage.com/photo6.html to the point where I believe they were likely signed not long apart.
Wow, those two are VERY similar. I would be suprised if they weren't signed in succession with each other at the same time using the same pen. Even the light shading in Ed White's first pen stroke is the same. |
Bob M
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posted 03-19-2007 10:58 AM
quote:
Originally posted by mjanovec:
Wow, those two are VERY similar. I would be suprised if they weren't signed in succession with each other at the same time using the same pen. Even the light shading in Ed White's first pen stroke is the same.
Ken Havekotte would be better suited than I to comment on these two very similar Apollo 1 crew signed glossies. Briefly, the one on my Website came from Ken in the late 1980's and was one of a group of 11 such Apollo 1 crew signed glossies that he obtained from the widow of a deceased KSC official. I would suspect that the one in the Swann auction may have been another of the 11.
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mjanovec
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posted 03-19-2007 03:17 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Bob M:
Ken Havekotte would be better suited than I to comment on these two very similar Apollo 1 crew signed glossies. Briefly, the one on my Website came from Ken in the late 1980's and was one of a group of 11 such Apollo 1 crew signed glossies that he obtained from the widow of a deceased KSC official. I would suspect that the one in the Swann auction may have been another of the 11.
Wow...interesting to know that 11 of these are out there! Makes you wonder how many authentic A1 signed items are out there. Still, it would be truly hard to come up with a nicer Apollo 1 signed photo than to have all three signatures on the red-stamped glossy like this. Truly spectacular! The only Apollo 1 signed item I like more is the one Donnis has (or had) with the gag photo and Ed White holding the launch escape tower model asking "Which one do I ride?" |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-21-2007 05:06 PM
Swann Galleries' catalog is now on eBay:
http://www.liveauctions.ebay.com/catalogs/21236?from=R11 |
spaceflori
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posted 03-22-2007 12:50 AM
Anybody notice the buyer's premium of 22,5 % ?
Pretty steep...Florian ------------------
Flown artifacts, autographs and more !
www.spaceflori.com |
413 is in
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posted 03-22-2007 01:51 AM
quote:
Originally posted by spaceflori:
Anybody notice the buyer's premium of 22,5 % ?
Pretty steep...Florian
Unfortunately, this seems to be the current trend in buyer's premiums. The additional 2.5% is a "live online auction" charge. You can avoid this charge by placing a proxy bid through the Swann auction web site or by attending the live auction in NYC. 20% is still painful no matter how you look at it. 
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gliderpilotuk
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posted 03-22-2007 07:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by spaceflori:
Anybody notice the buyer's premium of 22,5 % ?
Pretty steep...
Florian
On top of a seller's premium of what? 20%?
When auction houses are making over 40% of the final price you have to wonder... Paul
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SRB
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posted 03-22-2007 09:41 AM
Good point about the New buyers premium. It is now 20% at Swann, up from 15% in past years. Plus the 2.5% in you use Ebay. While 20% is in line with fine art sold at Chirstie's and Sotheby's, it is a new high for any space sale. Steve |
Larry McGlynn
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posted 03-26-2007 02:26 PM
There is a video clip of the auction at the Swann home page. ------------------
Larry McGlynn
A Tribute to Apollo |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-26-2007 03:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Larry McGlynn:
There is a video clip of the auction at the Swann home page.
Or, if you prefer, YouTube: Part one | Part two |
SRB
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posted 03-26-2007 10:01 PM
Very well done video. It is interesting to to hear Gregg Linebaugh, Swann's Space expert, talk in some detail about many of the best things in the sale.Steve |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-30-2007 02:58 PM
Here are all of the corrections for the current catalog, per Swann Galleries: Lot 79 Cover has been signed and inscribed with their LM vehicle numbers by Buzz Aldrin, Fred Haise, and Tom Stafford. Lot 174 Illustration is complete chart, not “detail”. Lot 176 Illustration is “detail”. Lot 211 Withdrawn. Lot 305 Estimate should read 1500/2000. Lot 348 Is a crew portrait of STS-33, not STS-41. Lot 400 Should read McCall, Robert, not Calle, Paul. Lithograph is signed by McCall. Lot 416 Date is 1962, not 1961. Lot 418 Illustration for this lot is marked 424. Lot 424 Illustration for this lot is marked 418. |
clifford
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posted 03-31-2007 08:48 PM
As of about 9:30 pm EST the results are posted at Swann's web site. The flown A-8 snoopy pin was a bargain at $2800, and most other prices seem to fall around estimates. Of note are lot 107, A11 lunar activation check list, a real beauty but shocking at $26,000 and lot 133, A13 contingency check list at $7000. |
divemaster
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posted 03-31-2007 08:49 PM
As always, Gregg and Swann put on a nice auction today.The "peanut gallery" was a lot more sedate this year. We all behaved ourselves [for once] Dave Scott [not the astronaut] got the bargain of the whole auction. -tracy |
clifford
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posted 03-31-2007 08:58 PM
So what did Dave Scott (not the astronaut) get ? |
divemaster
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posted 03-31-2007 09:01 PM
I don't want to steal his thunder. If he wants to reveal it, he will  It was even better than winning an Apollo 14 tie!
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gliderpilotuk
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posted 04-01-2007 02:48 AM
You certainly can't rationalise the bidding. An Apollo 7 flight plan went for $1,000 (!) while someone picked up a Shepard with flag for only <$300. I don't know how many people were there on the ground but the Ebay bidding hardly gave you a chance to get a bid in. Several times I had "your bid has been sent" only for the item to be closed. This seemed to be a combination of excessively quick turnaround of auction items and ebay technical delay. As with all of these online auction the auctioneers should give extra time for the submission of e-bids....after all we are being obliged to pay an extra 2.5% for the privilege of providing extra liquidity to the auction house and if my bid is not going to be accepted I have better things to do with my time. Paul Bramley |
poofacio
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posted 04-01-2007 04:25 AM
I agree Paul, That happened to me five times, and I had bid instantly.For 42.5% of the price they could possibly spare a few seconds of their valuable time! David |
Rick Mulheirn
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posted 04-01-2007 05:38 AM
Anybody care to share what they won at Swann? I too thought the Apollo 8 Snoopy pin was pretty reasonable and the surface flown LM activation page mind blowing!Regards, Rick |
GACspaceguy
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posted 04-01-2007 06:40 AM
I agree with Paul. I bid a number of times on line, it said it was sent, and the auction closed without my bid. I did win the MOL model, but that was by bidding the day before on eBay.I gave up and went outside to cut the grass, I could not just watch items I would have liked to bid on go by. I will just read all of the results later. |
Greggy_D
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posted 04-01-2007 06:57 AM
I picked up:307 FLOWN STS 6 Patch.
311 FLOWN STS 6 CAP Page.
319 Shuttle In-Flight Jacket. The Ebay system was a little squirrelly at first. When the auction started, the system told me I needed to sign up, but yet when I clicked on the Sign Up button it then told me I was already signed up. It wouldn't let me into the auction until about 5 minutes in. Good thing I didn't want to bid on any of the Goddard items.  And yes, I just knew everyone would be talking about the LM Check list. That was unbelievable. |
nasamad
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posted 04-01-2007 07:01 AM
I picked up.......... Nothing. Which is a shame because if Swann had got my bidder registration sorted out they could have made more money on both of the items I was gonna bid on ! Nevermind, it's their loss ! Adam |
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