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fabfivefreddy
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posted 10-03-2004 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fabfivefreddy   Click Here to Email fabfivefreddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Neil Armstrong-signed check sold by Aurora Auctions for $6,000 in their October 2, 2004 auction (lot 361) is an amazing item. I do believe it is the first check signed by him to be sold on the market.

Does anyone know the amount the check was written for? It appears to be for ten dollars, but the scan in the catalog was hard to read. I wonder if it was a bet or wager of some sort. Maybe Armstrong did not believe he would actually fly the mission or something (pure speculation).

In any case, what a great item! Congrats to whoever owns it now.

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posted 10-03-2004 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rjurek349   Click Here to Email rjurek349     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree. A great item... and in all honesty, I kind of expected it to go this high. The signature is wonderful and full. And the key thing for me is that it was written out on launch date.

I can't remember right now, but I thought I read somewhere that this was a ritual -- write a check to someone for good luck as you would still "owe them" the money until you got back.

In any event, a great item. Congrats to whomever got it.

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posted 10-04-2004 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rjurek349:
And the key thing for me is that it was written out on launch date.
In my opinion, this is the ONLY aspect that adds any value, but not $6000-worth - with all due respect to the buyer. In time I'm sure more checks will appear on the market and the only thing that will mark this out will be the issue date.

As with a lot of items, the context made a big difference to the price, e.g. flown signed Skylab flag - $450; flown flag on SL-1 presented to Deke - $1500.

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posted 10-04-2004 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mensax   Click Here to Email mensax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a fascinating item isn't it? I would think that in any other sale it would have made the catalog cover... okay... with the exception of the one that featured Walt Cunningham's shoes, of course.

I'm sure that there must be a great unknown story behind this check. I only hope that it comes out someday.

Great points about context Paul. So true. Context and verification add so much value to any item. I also agree with you that the date and context of this check will set it apart from any future checks that might come on to the market. I can't imagine that a canceled check from a local 7-11, that Neil wrote last week, would bring this kind of selling price.

But, you just have to wonder, where are those other checks? Why hasn't a single one ever, ever, come onto the market? Or has it? Has anyone in the collecting community ever seen one? If this is the only one that has made itself known in the last 40 years, what's the chance multiple ones will become available in the near future? It would sure be great to be able to ask Neil Armstrong himself about his check writing history.

There is one other appeal that this check has to it, at least for me. I know beyond a doubt that it's an authentic Neil Armstrong autograph. The skill level in forgeries today and ever improving ones in the future make all but three of them suspicious to me. Those three being... 1)this one 2) Sieger signed stamps 3) and any piece that Ken, Gerry, or Bob determine to be the authentic (and they won't be around 100 years from now to verify it to future generations).

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posted 10-04-2004 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually think $6000 was a fair price for this. The date is everything on this piece, not to mention that it is authentic. When you consider the thousands that people spend on bogus Armstrongs, this piece is not a bad deal at all.

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posted 10-04-2004 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chet   Click Here to Email chet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd guess a check made out by Armstrong dated 7/20/69 would probably fetch a higher price, but he was probably busy with other chores that day.

By the way, there are other Armstrong signed items that are certainly authentic, such as the "Naval Aviation" posters, the Paul Calle limited set drawings, and others. (I personally have less faith in the Sieger blocks).

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posted 10-05-2004 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VCampbell   Click Here to Email VCampbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm sure that there must be a great unknown story behind this check. I only hope that it comes out someday.
I got the story today - Neil had borrowed $10.40 from Hal Collins and when he handed Collins this check, it was like a "good luck' charm - he told Collins (who is now deceased) "Here's a check for the loan - but don't cash it because I WILL be back"

Interesting, huh?

Ken Havekotte
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posted 10-06-2004 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RE: The collection of Hal Collins. Yes, I was contacted and aware of his collection even before Aurora got some of the material.

The signed bank draft by Armstrong, in my opinion, is quite historic in a number of ways. Victoria's story is true and this is the only Armstrong check I know of that pertains to his Apollo era-career as a NASA astronaut; and on top of that, it was written in Neil's hand at crew quarters as he was preparing to command the first manned lunar landing mission in July 1969.

For those who collect bank drafts, you can't ask for a better one -- and from NA himself -- on such a historic occasion; the first human exploration of another world!

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posted 03-06-2005 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mensax   Click Here to Email mensax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It appears that this was a good luck ritual on Apollo 12 too! Check out this check!

If your looking for a great Apollo 12 collectible, and you've got some spare change, it's a terrific one-of-a-kind item.

I wonder if there was an Apollo 13 check?

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