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Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-20-2019 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SpaceX suffered a Crew Dragon anomaly today (April 20). The company issued the following statement:
Earlier today, SpaceX conducted a series of engine tests on a Crew Dragon test vehicle on our test stand at Landing Zone 1 in Cape Canaveral, Florida. The initial tests completed successfully but the final test resulted in an anomaly on the test stand.

Ensuring that our systems meet rigorous safety standards and detecting anomalies like this prior to flight are the main reasons why we test. Our teams are investigating and working closely with our NASA partners.

The 45th Space Wing confirmed there were no injuries in a statement provided to Florida Today.
Florida Today Photographer Craig Bailey, at a local beach, captured an image of orange plumes at the cape around 3:30 p.m.
The sight of orange plumes would suggest an issue with the SuperDracos, which burn hypergolic propellants.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-20-2019 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NASA Administrator statement:
The NASA and SpaceX teams are assessing the anomaly that occurred today during a part of the Dragon Super Draco Static Fire Test at SpaceX Landing Zone 1 in Florida. This is why we test. We will learn, make the necessary adjustments and safely move forward with our Commercial Crew Program.

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posted 04-21-2019 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cozmosis22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since, oddly enough, Elon Musk has not yet commented on the launch escape system test "anomaly" there is current speculation that the Dragon 2 capsule itself was destroyed. If so, that will likely push back a crewed launch into some time next year.

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posted 04-21-2019 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a video on Twitter. The capsule apparently blew up.

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posted 04-21-2019 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dom   Click Here to Email dom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Cozmosis22:
If so, that will likely push back a crewed launch into some time next year.

Surely we're looking at a significant delay if the capsule has actually BLOWN UP!!!

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posted 04-21-2019 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for issman1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm no SpaceX apologist or supporter and would also criticise Boeing for its constant delays and excuses.

But it seems that neither company was in any position to safely return NASA astronauts to low earth orbit. In fact, I fear both have shortcomings which endangers the ISS and those Americans being forced to launch and land on Soyuz and spend almost a year in space simply because it is expedient than rational.

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posted 04-21-2019 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fra Mauro   Click Here to Email Fra Mauro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anomaly... that's an understatement. Not a disaster or tragedy for sure, but NASA speak doesn't fit the event.

space1
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posted 04-21-2019 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for space1   Click Here to Email space1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recall an Aviation Week magazine cover in 1986 about the Space Shuttle Challenger "loss." Not accident, not tragedy, or anything more dramatic.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 04-21-2019 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was the Crew Dragon the exact same flight crew version #2 spacecraft set to fly, or was it a prototype for the launch escape system as I have not been following this event thus far, having been away last week from the Cape area? If it was the same #2 vehicle, by all means, it could be a major setback to say the least.

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posted 04-21-2019 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SpaceX has not officially said, but multiple sources say is was the Demo-1 Crew Dragon that was destroyed, the same spacecraft that flew to the International Space Station in March and that SpaceX was planning to use for its in-flight abort test.

The Demo-2 Crew Dragon that is to launch Bob Behnken and Doug Hurley is still under construction at SpaceX's assembly facility in Hawthorne, California.

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posted 04-21-2019 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Robert as that makes more sense. I didn't think the Demo-2 Crew Dragon vehicle was even ready for her maiden flight and why use it for the abort test firing. Still surprised a bit to hear that it was the Demo-1 spacecraft that had been used, though. Hopefully SpaceX can quickly resolve the failure and have it corrected before the next abort test firing, however, what vehicle would they use for it now?

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That would seem to be one of the issues; SpaceX may have to build a new vehicle for the in-flight abort test.

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Originally the Crew Dragon was supposed to return to Earth on land, and be reused. SpaceX scratched that when they decided to focus their funding on the Super Heavy/Starship for human flight. So, SpaceX decided to do water landings, for Crew Dragon. The concern was that water landings would not be good for the Super Draco thrusters, and therefore all manned Crew Dragons would be new spacecraft.

Assuming it's the Super Dracos that blew up, this concern with the effects of seawater on the Super Draco engines appears to be justified. I am guessing that since all Crew Dragons will theoretically be new spacecraft, that this is not too much of a show stopper, although it's obvious they'll want to do some more testing on the engines.

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posted 04-21-2019 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAngel   Click Here to Email SpaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I cannot believe this was the same spacecraft involved the the demo flight last month...

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Originally posted by SkyMan1958:
...with the effects of seawater on the Super Draco engines
You are, of course, assuming the issue was seawater intrusion, as opposed to something unrelated. Until more information is known about the cause, it is probably impossible to gauge how major or minor a problem this is for going forward.

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posted 04-22-2019 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for denali414   Click Here to Email denali414     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The last explosion for SpaceX was a helium leak in the tank. It could again be something with the tanks.

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posted 04-22-2019 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Behling   Click Here to Email Jim Behling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SkyMan1958:
Assuming it's the Super Dracos that blew up, this concern with the effects of seawater on the Super Draco engines appears to be justified.
There is no data to support that statement.

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Where is the Landing Zone 1 area at Cape Canaveral? Which launch pads or blockhouses is it located by?

I am trying to figure out by which launch pad did this unsuccessful event take place at? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Robert Pearlman
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Landing Zone 1 is located on the site of the former Cape Canaveral Air Force Station Launch Complex 13 (LC-13). It is located between the Mercury-Atlas LC-14 pad and Atlas-Agena LC-12 pad and is southeast of the active 39A and LC-40 launch complexes.

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NASA's Aerospace Safety Advisory Panel discussed the anomaly during its meeting today (April 25).
"The event occurred during a static fire test conducted prior to the in-flight abort test," said Patricia Sanders, chairwoman of the panel charged with ensuring that NASA has a healthy safety culture and mitigates risks where possible during spaceflight.

The Crew Dragon capsule in question is the same one that successfully flew a demonstration mission to the International Space Station in March. On Saturday, the spacecraft was being prepared for a launch-abort flight this summer. During the abort flight, the Dragon would have launched from Florida on a Falcon 9 booster and then fired its powerful SuperDraco engines to show that the Dragon could pull itself safely away from the rocket in case of a problem with the booster before or during flight.

"The firing was intended to demonstrate integrated systems SuperDraco performance in two times vehicle level vibro-acoustic-like for abort environments," Sanders said. Here, Sanders explains that the test was simulating the Falcon 9 rocket below the spacecraft breaking apart, and triggering an abort.

"Firing of 12 service section Dracos were successfully performed," she said, noting that the 12 smaller Draco engines used for in-space maneuvering functioned normally. "Firing of eight SuperDracos resulted in an anomaly," Sanders concluded. This suggests the anomaly occurred during or just after the SuperDraco test. Sanders also noted that SpaceX followed all safety protocols for the test and that no one was injured.

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The silence from Mr. Musk and Ms. Shotwell are deafening while Mr. Bridenstine is being starry-eyed. Understandable as his agency has invested so much in SpaceX.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 05-02-2019 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hans Koenigsmann, SpaceX's vice president for mission assurance, said today that the cause of the April 20 Crew Dragon anomaly is not yet known.

A review of the initial data indicates that the anomaly took place during SuperDraco activation, but there is no sign that the issue is with the thrusters themselves. SpaceX has high confidence in the SuperDraco after extensive previous testing.

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