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Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-02-2017 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please use this topic to discuss Blue Origin's proposed Blue Moon lunar lander to deliver gear for experiments, cargo and habitats by mid-2020, helping to enable "future human settlement" of the moon.

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Blue Origin has been circulating a seven-page white paper to NASA leadership and President Trump's transition team about the company's interest in developing a lunar spacecraft with a lander that would touch down near a crater at the south pole where there is water and near continuous sunlight for solar energy, reports The Washington Post.
Blue Origin's proposal — dated Jan. 4 — doesn't involve flying humans, but rather is focused on a series of cargo missions. Those could deliver the equipment necessary to help establish a human colony on the moon — unlike the Apollo missions, in which the astronauts left "flags and footprints" and then came home.

...Blue Origin could perform the first lunar mission as early as July, 2020, Bezos wrote, but stressed that it could "only be done in partnership with NASA. Our liquid hydrogen expertise and experience with precision vertical landing offer the fastest path to a lunar lander mission. I'm excited about this and am ready to invest my own money alongside NASA to make it happen."

Last year, Blue Origin successfully launched and landed its suborbital rocket, the New Shepard, five times within less than a year, flying just past the 62-mile edge of space and then landing vertically on a landing pad at the company's West Texas facility.

That same technology could be used to land the Blue Moon vehicle on the lunar surface, the company said. Its white paper shows what looks like a modified New Shepard rocket, standing on the moon with an American flag, a NASA logo and Blue Origin's feather symbol.

The company said it plans to land its Blue Moon lunar lander at Shackleton Crater on the moon's south pole. The site has near continuous sunlight to provide power through the spacecraft's solar arrays. The company also chose to land there because of the "water ice in the perpetual shadow of the crater's deep crevices."

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I think this is the best path forward for commercial space companies. NASA should begin the 21st century exploration of the moon, and follow the model of ISS resupply to support the effort.

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posted 03-03-2017 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aviation Week video
Blue Origin's New Shepard Team is the winner of Aviation Week's 60th Annual Space Laureate. New Shepard is only the first step in fulfilling Blue Origin owner Jeff Bezos' vision of using ever larger reusable rockets to send an entire economy into Earth orbit and beyond.

Following the Laureate Award presentations held at Washington's National Building Museum on March 2, Bezos talked to Aviation Week & Space Technology Editor-in-Chief Joe Anselmo and the audience at the awards dinner about the importance of expanding into the solar system.

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Blue Origin on Twitter:
50 years ago today, NASA launched Apollo 5, the first uncrewed Lunar Module test flight. This mission proved out the Lunar Module propulsion systems, staging, and in-space operations before carrying astronauts.

Blue Moon is designed to fly on any launch vehicle, including SLS, Atlas V, Vulcan and New Glenn. Delivering large payloads to the lunar surface, Blue Moon can help put astronauts on the moon – this time to stay.

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Does anyone have any scale drawings of the Blue Moon lander next to an LM so we can get a rough idea of the size comparison?

Also, all I've been able to find is a description that the lander is designed to deliver 10,000 pounds to the surface. I have no idea if this 10,000 includes the weight of the lander or is strictly the payload. Does anyone know which of these two possibilities is the correct one?

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posted 01-23-2018 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To my knowledge, Blue Origin hasn't released any more details about Blue Moon than you see here. The rendering above is the only available image to date.

As to the payload capability, The Washington Post, in its March 2017 article, cited a (leaked) Blue Origin white paper as stating:

The Blue Moon spacecraft could carry as much as 10,000 pounds of material...

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