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spaceman
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posted 10-31-2013 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceman   Click Here to Email spaceman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do we have a term yet for a person that will fly on a sub-orbital flight such as Virgin Galactic as a tourist/passenger? What about the professional crew on such flights?

Blackarrow
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posted 11-04-2013 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rich.

Jim Behling
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posted 11-04-2013 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Behling   Click Here to Email Jim Behling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astronaut

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 11-04-2013 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see why one can't use "spaceflight participant" considering that's the catchall term for those who have paid or whose government has paid for a flight and who is not a career astronaut.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 11-04-2013 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With regards to the professional crew of a private spacecraft, the Federal Aviation Administration defines them as a commercial astronaut.
A commercial astronaut is a person trained to command, pilot, or serve as a crew member of a privately funded spacecraft.
To date, the FAA has awarded commercial astronaut wings to Mike Melvill and Brian Binnie for piloting SpaceShipOne.

For those paying to ride on commercial spacecraft, the FAA has informally used "spaceflight passenger."

gliderpilotuk
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posted 11-05-2013 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blackarrow:
Rich.
You mean "plutonaut" (as in plutocrat) or maybe "cashtronaut" (copyright).

I thank you.

Tykeanaut
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posted 11-05-2013 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Prosaic I know, but how about Sub-orbital passenger?

spaceman
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posted 11-06-2013 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceman   Click Here to Email spaceman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought I had read somewhere that the astronaut tag would only apply to those achieving orbit... but thanks for the input. I like the term commercial astronaut commercial space crew member) and spaceflight passenger too.

If you liken it to air travel we initially had the pioneers, pilots/crew and passengers.
When the mass of us fly now we don't actually participate.

If the FAA's predictions of 15,000 spaceflight passengers a year becomes a reality, and I'm sure it will, the names of only the early spaceflight pioneers will be remembered with the rest soon forgotten.

Jay Chladek
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posted 11-06-2013 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Payload.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 11-06-2013 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by spaceman:
I thought I had read somewhere that the astronaut tag would only apply to those achieving orbit...
The military, civilian and commercial licensing agencies award astronaut wings for all flights above 62 miles (100 kilometers), regardless if orbital or suborbital (the U.S. Air Force lowers the threshold to 50 miles, but that is somewhat irrelevant to this discussion).

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