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Robert Pearlman
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Editor's note: In an effort to keep the topic Recording artist Sarah Brightman's mission to ISS focused on status updates, feedback and opinions are directed to this thread.

Please use this topic to discuss the global recording artist's preparations to fly and mission to the International Space Station.

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I've noticed on the ISS Launch schedule list that Sarah Brightman had been chosen for the Soyuz MS-02 (ISS-45)? Who is Sarah Brightman?

I've never heard of this woman and she's British... as you knew that British newspapers don't have any interests on human spaceflight, so if anyone know where and who she works for?

I'm interested to find out more about Sarah Brightman, so I'm listening...

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You can read about Brightman on Wikipedia and on her website.

Brightman's announcement that she had signed a contract to train for a flight to the International Space Station was well-covered in the British print and broadcast media. Here are a few clips: BBC News | The Guardian | The Telegraph

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If you don't know who she is chappy, you must be a lot younger than me!

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Thanks Robert for this useful information regarding Sarah Brightman.

A message for Tykeanaut, I won't be revealing my age ...I'm not into music because I'm deaf, can't hear the music. Now I know who Sarah Brightman is. I thought Timothy Peake would have be the next Briton to go into space...

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I just hope she's going to be doing some serious science there, not just goofing off.

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While I expect Brightman will have a science program, science is certainly not the only worthwhile contribution she can make on the station. Richard Garriott created artwork and tested earth observation software; Charles Simonyi (and others) held amateur radio sessions with students, Anousheh Ansari blogged and Guy Laliberté held a worldwide simulcast to raise awareness about the need for clean water on Earth.

Space (and the space station) are not only about science, and so even the magic tricks and sci-fi movie filmed by Garriott were important for extending our culture and humanity into space...

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I'm sure she won't be using the opportunity to boost her album sales

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Along those lines, chief cosmonaut Sergei Krikalev told Interfax he does not rule out Brightman could have announced her intention to fly to the space station to advertise her new album.
"This is not the first time such a situation has arose. Of course, this information is news to me, but I'm not very surprised. Many years ago there was an option to send one singer into space. He had undergone a medical selection and there were plans to sign a contract with him. I don't have precise information on the situation with Sarah Brightman, but such things are probably possible, yes," Krikalev told Interfax-AVN.

Sources in the rocket and space industry earlier told Interfax-AVN that Brightman, who announced her wish to make a tourist flight to the ISS in October, will probably not fly. "It is very probable that the singer said she may fly to the ISS to fuel interest in her year-long world tour, which she will begin next year," the source said.

(It should be noted that Interfax and its sources' track record when it comes to accurately reporting about spaceflight participant selections has been less than stellar, so consider this report accordingly. That Brightman timed her news to help promote album sales doesn't necessarily negate her also flying to the station.)

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Roscosmos chief Vladimir Popovkin told reporters Friday (Nov. 23) that Sarah Brightman intends to fly in space, Interfax reports.
"I have met with Sarah Brightman. She intends to fly. However, Roscosmos has not made a final decision yet," Popovkin said.

Commenting on the reasons why no decision has been made yet, Popovkin said: "We need to provide young cosmonauts with flight practice."

Speaking about when a final decision may be made on the matter, Popovkin said it will happen "in the second half of 2013."

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Now it may not happen because of a planned month-long flight:
Roscosmos head Vladimir Popovkin said that plan could be off the table because the Russian space agency is considering extending to flight from eight days to one month.

In that case, he said, Brightman would have to give up her seat to a professional.

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All the drama of an Andrew Lloyd Webber musical.

It's on; it's off, but it ain't over until the (not so fat) lady sings.

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Sarah Brightman says she initially turned down the chance to be a private spaceflight participant:
She tells Seven magazine, "When I first was asked to do it, I thought 'I don't think so'. It's a really important step to take. But the second time I felt ready.

"I'm feeling anticipation about the flight, but no apprehension, just how I feel before I go on stage."

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Russia's space agency Roscosmos said on Monday it has reached an agreement with Space Adventures to proceed with the plans to put British singer Sarah Brightman on a Soyuz flight to the International Space Station (ISS) in October 2015, RIA Novosti reports.
"The sides will discuss in the near future the implementation of this project, including Sarah Brightman's preparation for the flight and the program of her activities on board the orbital station," Roscosmos said in a statement.

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When she was asked to do it?

That sounds very strange. Is Space Adventures "asking" random multi-millionaires to go to space? I would have thought that the space flight participants would have been space enthusiasts seeking this opportunity.

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Even well-to-do space enthusiasts don't always think they have the "right stuff" go to space. When I worked at Space Adventures, we actively pursued affluent individuals who had an stated interest in space, including Guy Laliberté and Dennis Tito.

It doesn't mean that they wouldn't have eventually come to the idea themselves but as a company, Space Adventures had an interest in being proactive.

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Yuri Lonchakov, head of the Yuri Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center, has said that Brightman is scheduled to begin training in August or September for her 10-day trip to the International Space Station.

She is slated to launch with Roscosmos cosmonaut Sergei Volkov and European Space Agency (ESA) astronaut Andreas Mogensen on Soyuz TMA-18M on Oct. 4, 2015.

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That's interesting because Brightman had concert dates scheduled for August... before an ankle injury forced her to postpone/cancel her appearances.

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Japanese entrepreneur Satoshi Takamatsu has been confirmed by Roscosmos as backup to Sarah Brightman for her Sept. 2015 ten-day mission to the International Space Station.

Takamtsu is the founder and CEO of Space Travel, a space tourism firm in Japan, which has an agreement to market Space Adventures' programs in the country.

"We have worked with Mr. Takamatsu over the last decade and as we continue our efforts to expand private spaceflight opportunities, we look forward to work closely with him and his newly formed Space Travel firm in providing these opportunities to the people of Japan," said Tom Shelley, President of Space Adventures, in September. "Mr. Takamatsu is a big space fan, but also a very successful businessman and brings his own unique experience as the only person to direct a television broadcast commercial onboard the International Space Station. I am looking forward to a very fruitful partnership."
As the CEO of Space Films, Takamatsu directed TV commercials shot aboard the International Space Station, including for the Japanese sports drink Pocari Sweat.
We have succeeded in having three space projects on board the International Space Station. In 2001, we shot the Pocari Sweat commercial in HD in space, and in 2005 we have shot the last episode for the Nissin Cup Noodles NO BORDERS series. In 2008, we conducted the Olympus space project as well, in which astronaut Wakata took photographs of Earth from the Japanese module Kibo and we used those for a photography exhibition.

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ITAR-TASS reports on the clothing choices for Sarah Brightman and her crewmates, though somewhat conflates her on-orbit flight suit with her Sokol suit:
British singer Sarah Brightman will fly to the International Space Station dressed in a velvet-blue space suit with an emblem of a flag of the United Kingdom.

The details of the costume of the next space tourist were disclosed by Alexander Yarov, Director General of the Kentavr-Nauka company that has been the main designer of space outfit for Russian cosmonauts for the past 40 years. "During a short space flight Sarah Brightman intends to wear a spacious polo-style shirt, a light suit, a Kentavr space suit intended to minimize the pressure of space load during the flight and a Bracelet elastic belt," Yarov told TASS on Monday.

Russian cosmonaut Sergey Volkov - Chief pilot of the Soyuz TMA-18M spaceship, which will take Brightman into space in September, has chosen the colors for the clothes for the space crew. Volkov decided on the velvet-blue shades for the space clothes which will differ in the emblems of the space crew's national flags only, Yarov said.

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Now Tim Peake cannot even claim to the be the first British astronaut in 2015!

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Tim Peake couldn't claim that before Brightman's flight either; Helen Sharman was the first Briton to fly in space in 1991.

Peake is the UK's "first official astronaut," flying on behalf of the government.

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A little research I made ranges Sarah Brightman's fortune between 40m$ and 60m$. Does that make her the least affluent of the spaceflight participants confirmed for flight or for training?

I've often said that if I had but one dollar more than the required sum for such a flight, I'd happily go for it and live on the remaining dollar for the rest of my life...

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I've always had the feeling this is a publicity stunt and the mission will really be flown by the (much wealthier?) Japanese businessman.

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I seem to remember that the trip must be paid for upfront, and that if the prime participant can't fly at one point, the substitute flies without the prime being refunded. Right?

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The contract details are not public. If direct refunds are not possible, there is the option of insurance, such that the funds are recuperated in the case the flight is not possible (or other contingencies).

As to the earlier question, there have been individuals who have trained who have a lower net worth than Brightman. It should also be noted that not all of those who flew have disclosed their net worth. At least a few of the past fliers' trips were partially funded by outside sources, too.

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The Russians got burnt in the past (remember Lance Bass), so I'm sure Brightman has put down a substantial deposit. My hunch is that she'll be "medically disqualified" soon and will announce a world tour — concerts, not orbits!

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The Russians were never "burnt" by Bass; he never had a flight contract. He only took part in the training activities for which funding was provided by a third party.

Bass was not a client of Space Adventures, the only company capable of booking seats on Soyuz for self-funded passengers.

As for Brightman, she is a Space Adventures client and they have never agreed to represent someone through the training and flight process for publicity only.

In any case, Brightman has a press conference scheduled for March 10 to discuss the details of her spaceflight.

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Robert, are you working on Brightman's PR team or something?

(I noticed you're similarly touchy when it comes to tongue-in-cheek comments about Virgin Galactic. Stop defending rich celebrities!)

Anyway, news that she's now organised a press conference only confirms to me that it's all just about reviving a flagging career. I only have respect for space tourists who have a genuine love of spaceflight. This flight (if it happens) appears to be for all the wrong reasons, so please excuse by cynicism...

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I only have respect for space tourists who have a genuine love of spaceflight.
The training may be abbreviated, but it is hard to believe that anyone without a genuine interest in space exploration would subject themselves to the six months of work it requires to qualify to fly.

Between the invasive medical exams at the hands of doctors you don't know (and at the time, may not even speak the same language of) and the hours of studying (both learning Russian and spacecraft systems simultaneously), not to mention the physical training and isolated living conditions in Star City, one has to have their heart in it or they aren't going to succeed.

Besides, dismissing someone simply because of their success, or resulting wealth, in their chosen field seems wrong.

As for organizing a press conference, most of the self-funded space station visitors held separate (from their crew) press conferences given the media's interest in their activities.

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Sarah Brightman collects space memorabilia, the Times of London reveals in a new profile piece published Sunday (March 8):
...Brightman used some of her multimillion-pound fortune to buy a notebook that [Buzz] Aldrin had used on the moon. He scrawled "these notes were made by me on the moon" then signed his name. The page is now framed and has pride of place on the wall of her Los Angeles home, alongside a collection of posters from Soviet space missions that she has bought at auction over the years.
The article also offers insight into how her upcoming spaceflight came about.
"Through all this I met a lovely gentleman called Peter Diamandis, who is a co-founder of the space agency I have gone through, Space Adventures," she says. "A couple of years later he said, 'Look, would you be interested in going to the International Space Station?' My first reaction was, 'It's amazing that you are asking me and that you think I could be a candidate for this.' But I wasn't ready for it, to go through all the medicals. Yet it left that little thing in my head."

A couple of years later the offer was repeated. She agreed to go through the medical testing program at the NASA headquarters in Houston, Texas, assuming that as a woman in her fifties she had little chance of passing.

"I got through everything and at a very high level," she says, flushing with pride. "I was incredibly healthy."

...Brightman claims to have been hooked on space since she saw Neil Armstrong walk on the moon when she was eight. It was that night, she says, that she resolved to work really hard at whatever she was good at to go as far as she could in life.

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Tim Peake couldn't claim that before Brightman's flight either...
Robert, I was being tongue-in-cheek, meaning that as he could never claim to be "Britain's first Astronaut" due to Helen Sharman, now he can't even claim to "Britain's first Astronaut in 2015" due to Sarah Brightman.

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Ah, apologies. Having had to earlier correct a colleague about this (who didn't know about Sharman), I read your post incorrectly.

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At least a few of the past fliers' trips were partially funded by outside sources, too.
Do you have any reference for such sources?

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In case I'm seemingly too harsh on Brightman consider this...

If I was British (which I'm not), I'd be very annoyed that all the press attention is now focused on her vanity trip into space — at the expense of the first 100% British government funded ESA/British astronaut mission to the ISS.

The British government has always been sniffy about manned spaceflight and not unfortunately Peake's packed mission of science will now be overshadowed by a mediocre singer whose only possible experimental usefulness will be to test the effects of weightlessness on Botox.

I just about tolerated 'space tourism' to the ISS when it was absolutely necessary (don't forget the Russians were only using the program to make much needed cash) but this flight is just a farce!

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It sounds like you have personal issues with Brightman, which is fine, but shapes your opinion of the flight.

Brightman will be just the 60th woman in space, out of more than 500 space explorers worldwide, so at the very least she's going to be an additional role model for young women. And she's advancing projects for both UNESCO and the Challenger Center for Space Education, organizations I suspect most would agree deserve the exposure.

Brightman clearly has her fans worldwide, so she involves a new audience in spaceflight and exposes them to the work being done on the space station. And despite claims that she's only doing this for publicity, she has demonstrated she has had a long interest in space exploration, even collecting space memorabilia.

It's fine to think her mission is a farce, so long as you recognize that is your opinion and not based on the facts of the flight.

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Robert, I grew up with Brightman on television over here and my opinion is very much based on that experience. Her expressed love of spaceflight is news to me... it's something she never mentioned before - unlike other pro-space celebrities like John Denver.

All I'm saying is that I'm just sorry for those who worked hard to get Tim Peake to the ISS. Very bad timing.

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I agree with Robert's post about Brightman's mission and her goals (fair disclosure: I do have several of her CDs). But it seems to me, if this is the only way so far to get into space and back, pending a startup of any commercial tourist venture, then any one should go for it.

As for it being a farce: although I may be comparing apples and oranges, wasn't the stated goal in the early 80s of NASA flying a teacher, journalists, other "non-traditional" astronauts aboard shuttle to communicate in their respective professions about spaceflight to a wider audience?

I can understand people being put in a lather about Brightman's flight (upstaging Peake! Having her own roadies at Star City to prepare for her launch! ) But not having a "true" official British astronaut before Sharman (remember the UK MoD payload specialists in training before Challenger?) is water under the bridge. The more diverse the people who go up and tell us (general public) about their experiences, the better.

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All I'm saying is that I'm just sorry for those who worked hard to get Tim Peake to the ISS. Very bad timing.
Brightman's flight might just increase interest in Peake's mission; time will tell.

At this morning's press conference, Peake appeared in a recorded video offering his words of support for Brightman.

Brightman's interest in space was news to me as well, but it seems to be genuine.

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What do you Brits think of Brightman "up-staging" Peake's mission?


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