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SpaceAholic
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posted 12-21-2021 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tensions with Russia are now spilling into space, complicating the International Space Station partnership, the Washington Post reports.
...the fragile coalition that has kept the space station going all these years is fraying, as tensions between Russia and the United States, the two main partners on the station, grow to levels not seen in years. And while the countries have kept their alliance on the station going despite geopolitical tensions, the fence that has kept the station and civil space endeavors walled off from other problems is beginning to erode.

All of which are complicating efforts to extend the life of the station and keep the partnership going.

The space station "might be a high-water mark for U.S.-Russia relations," said Scott Pace, the director of the Space Policy Institute at George Washington University and the executive secretary of the National Space Council during the Trump administration. "But it's not invulnerable ... If we were to start over today, we would not have the Russians as partners on the station. That was done in another, more hopeful, era."

perineau
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posted 12-21-2021 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for perineau   Click Here to Email perineau     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps Russia will now turn to China as a partner in space exploration, like a joint manned mission to Mars, for example.

dom
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posted 12-21-2021 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dom   Click Here to Email dom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, if a conflict kicks off over Ukraine early next year I’d say the partnership’s days are probably numbered. Unless being part of the ISS is seen as more of a prized geopolitical asset to Russia?

Mike Dixon
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posted 12-21-2021 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Dixon   Click Here to Email Mike Dixon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by perineau:
Perhaps Russia will now turn to China...
Unlikely I'd imagine.

SkyMan1958
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posted 12-21-2021 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, please!!! People seem to forget that when you are dealing with multibillion dollar international programs, you are not doing it out of the goodness of your heart. You are doing it for perceived national benefits. As long as the US and Russia get substantial benefits from the ISS they will continue to be partners and extend the life of the station. Once the costs outweigh the benefits then the Station will be toast.

As to Russia and China working together in space, of course they will, as long as they both feel the benefits are in their national interests. I would assume for the Russians that they will be getting money from the Chinese. I assume for the Chinese they will be getting experience and hardware designs from the Russians. Of the two it makes sense to me that once the Chinese have sucked the Russians dry that the Chinese will only keep the Russians on in future space endeavors if it is worthwhile from Chinese geopolitical interests.

Neil DC
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posted 12-22-2021 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neil DC   Click Here to Email Neil DC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agree with your assessment SkyMan. All down to the money and prestige.

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