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Topic: Reference for Soyuz landing site locations
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cosmos-walter Member Posts: 691 From: Salzburg, Austria Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 03-23-2012 04:18 PM
For my forthcoming book on pioneer rocket mail and space mail I am checking the landing sites of manned Soyuz spacecrafts. Thus I had to learn they differ in different sources.For example: Wikipedia says Soyuz 4 landed on January 17, 1969, 100 km (62 mi) southwest of Karaganda. Spacefacts says Soyuz 4 landed on the same day 40 km northwest of Karaganda. Does anybody of you know a reliable source for Soyuz landing sites? I would not mind, if they were in Russian language. |
moorouge Member Posts: 2454 From: U.K. Registered: Jul 2009
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posted 03-24-2012 01:58 AM
Soyuz 4 landed north west. |
MSS Member Posts: 633 From: Poland Registered: May 2003
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posted 03-24-2012 04:49 PM
Here are they! |
cosmos-walter Member Posts: 691 From: Salzburg, Austria Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 03-24-2012 06:06 PM
Thank you very much for the link. |
cosmos-walter Member Posts: 691 From: Salzburg, Austria Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 03-25-2012 08:17 AM
Now I have one more bet for Soyuz 19 - ASTP landing site: - Spacefacts: 87 km NE of Arkalyk
- Maciej Stolowski: 54 km NE of Arkalyk
- Vitali Koslov's (a fellow collector from Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine) list I used in my book: 34 km NW of Arkalyk
There is still much research left to do. |
alec Member Posts: 37 From: Romania Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 03-26-2012 04:32 AM
Difficult task Walter! See, for example. I will look for some references on ASTP - Soyuz 19 and let you know. I have somewhere an "official" document... but I have to find it. |
alec Member Posts: 37 From: Romania Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 03-26-2012 06:16 AM
What about Mark Wade's Encyclopedia Astronautica? Landing of Soyuz 19 (ASTP) - . Return Crew: Kubasov; Leonov. Nation: USSR. Related Persons: Kubasov; Leonov. Program: ASTP. Flight: Soyuz 19 (ASTP); Apollo (ASTP). Summary: Soyuz 19 landed safely at 10:51 GMT, 87 km north-east of Arkalyk, 9. 6 km from its aim point. |
cosmos-walter Member Posts: 691 From: Salzburg, Austria Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 03-26-2012 11:58 AM
Mark Wade's Encyclopedia Astronautica says: "Soyuz 4 prepared to land and the three crew successfully landed 100 km SW of Karaganda."This contradicts two maps with early Soviet landing sites which were provided by Eddie Pugh. |
MSS Member Posts: 633 From: Poland Registered: May 2003
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posted 03-26-2012 02:34 PM
Do you know this link with maps, Walter? |
cosmos-walter Member Posts: 691 From: Salzburg, Austria Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 03-26-2012 05:45 PM
Thank you for this link, Maciej. I did not know Sergei Hlynin's home-page. Is it the source for the landing sites of your great home-page? |
MSS Member Posts: 633 From: Poland Registered: May 2003
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posted 03-27-2012 12:56 PM
The best sources: |
kyra Member Posts: 583 From: Louisville CO US Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 03-29-2012 11:27 AM
I tracked Vostok-6 down to the monuments on Google Earth, and it seems both mouments for the Descent module and Valentina Tereshkova are both several hundered feet northwest (at the same angle) of the official coordinates listed for the FAI. Does this reflect inaccurcies in the pre-GPS world? |
moorouge Member Posts: 2454 From: U.K. Registered: Jul 2009
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posted 03-31-2012 01:55 AM
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kyra Member Posts: 583 From: Louisville CO US Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 03-31-2012 10:45 PM
These are interesting maps of the classic flights, Thanks!I'm wondering if they were based on rough coordinates or the even more vague "210 km SW of Karaganda" that were typically announced at the time. While the distances were accurate, they did not generally take into account NNW, SSE on the compass rose. The FAI reports are fairly accurate for placement unless a marker has been spotted on the ground or an actual account of the recovery has been published. |