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Glint
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posted 01-10-2012 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glint   Click Here to Email Glint     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A string of spectacular space failures has Russia suspecting outside influence, according to recent press coverage:
"I don't want to blame anyone, but today there are powerful means to affect the trajectory of spacecraft, and we can't exclude that these have been deployed," Popovkin, head of Russia's space agency, Roscosmos, was quoted as saying by the Moscow-based newspaper.
It will be interesting to learn whether the ongoing Phobos-Grunt investigation turns up any smoking guns in that regard.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-10-2012 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the ABC News report linked above:
"It is unclear why our setbacks often occur when the vessels are travelling though what for Russia is the 'dark' side of the Earth – in areas where we do not see the craft and do not receive its telemetry readings," the head of Russia's equivalent to NASA told the daily Izvestia newspaper.
Doesn't this point more to a failure by Russia to deploy its own TDRSS-like constellation rather than foul play? Anyone know what percentage of the Earth is LOS for Russia's own comm systems?

SpaceAholic
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posted 01-10-2012 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The December launch of Luch 5A represents Russian efforts to reconstitute a TDRSS analog constellation. Its at 16W which opens coverage across most of the Atlantic, another bird is supposed to launch later this year to extend coverage over the IO and Pacific.

fredtrav
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posted 01-10-2012 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like whipping up a case of paranoia to cover their failures. If somebody else with nefarious motives did it than it could not have been their failure.

SkyMan1958
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posted 01-10-2012 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One would assume that the Russian military is still launching it's rockets/satellites. Are they having any of these issues? My understanding is that the Russian military sector has tougher oversight than the civilian sector. Does anyone know if this is correct?

mikej
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posted 01-10-2012 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mikej   Click Here to Email mikej     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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SpaceAholic
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posted 01-10-2012 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That individual (and his show) epitomizes the decline of what was formally an excellent channel.

Jay Chladek
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posted 01-11-2012 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think it was sabotage, but the Russians love to interject little stuff like this into things to keep their people a little off balance. They love intrigue and hardship and they've done it since the Soviet days. Plus, Russian politicians and officials love to gossip about one another behind their backs it seems and to plant to rumor of an outside influence keeps the heat off their backs a little.

Given that the failures experienced have been in different systems, to me that would not necessarily rule out sabotage, but it would make it less likely.

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