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kyra
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posted 03-14-2007 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kyra   Click Here to Email kyra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In several moons of searching nightly in Russian for materials on the Vostok spacecraft, I have found very little new information that has not been published in such books as "The Rocket Men", outside a handful of deatils in passing statements of Kamanin's diaries, technicians biographies etc.

Is there anyone out there that has technical documents, schematics, transcripts (outside of the Vostok-1), on-board journals, post-flight technical reports, etc?

RGANDT seems to be the only source, but their e-mail is blocked from my ISP's servers!

(As an update I have found a way to keep these from bouncing, but out of 5 emails sent to different locations over a month ago - 0 responses.)

This is really silly that in 2007 that one of the most historic spacecraft of all time is still by and large a mystery! All the information published so far could fit on about 10 pages of paper (with 7 of these being guesswork)!

kyra
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posted 05-07-2007 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kyra   Click Here to Email kyra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's an example from my notes of how bad the situation is:

Take for example the Raduga system. It was used during landing. It was located in the SA somewhere. It was flown during Voskhod (confirmed). Was it flown on Vostok? (probably, but not certain) It was shortwave. (9-20Mhz 80-90% certain on these numbers). There were no controls for the cosmonaut to turn it on or off (99 % certain), so it must be automatic, probably turned on somewhere in the jettison sequence after TDU firing (70-80% certain). How well did it function if it all ? Unknown. Did it have an antenna ? Unkown. Did it even need an antenna ? There are vague references to the outer hull serving as an antenna - have no idea where this reference came from. How much power usage -independent battery? Completely unknown.

The heatshield. It was ablative made of a "teflon-like (80-90% certain)" material if the translation is right. At it maximum thickness 180 mm (most sources) or 140mm (Kamanin in citing a test question on the heatshield thickness given to cosmonauts. So 140-180mm would be correct, but by researching I added another variable!

Also mentioned was the Krug system that were "signals sent by the ship during landing" by Kamanin which completely throws a wrench into poorly understood systems. Or were they testing cosmonauts on Vostok/Voskhod and Soyuz systems on the same test in 1964?

Worse yet, my own posts becomes fodder that returns on my own searches!

Lou Chinal
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posted 06-10-2007 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would be interested in hearing about this also. One question that I have is does the Vostok pilot have a reserve parachute?

kyra
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posted 06-19-2007 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kyra   Click Here to Email kyra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We believe they did based on sketchy details and a few grainy photos. It was contained in the NAZ survival pack on the backside of the cosmonaut. Other contents included food and 4 water rations, a compass, oxygen bottle, life raft, and a TP-82 survival gun. Another part of this kit that remained with the seat had a post-landing kit that had the blue jogging outfit and white canvas sneakers that the cosmonauts donned after landing.

Another item that is speculated is that the parachute we see on the topside of the ejection seat was the main parachute for the seat and the cosmonaut right after ejection, and the cosmonaut landed on that chute, and the seat crashed to the ground without one !

A reconstruction of the ejection sequence is somewhat understood. A barometric altimiter initiated the hatch jettison, a timer started, a red light flashed on the panel with a warning tone and 2 seconds after the hatch jettison the rockets on the bottom of the seat fired for 1.1 seconds.

A set of barometric switches specially made for parachute jumping called a PPK mechanically pulled the mechanism to pull the chute from the top of the seat. A second set of these PPK's would separate the cosmonaut and parachute from the seat.

These PPK's were activated by air pressure, but also had a variable time delay that could be set by the user.

It would be great if there were a specialist in ejection seat technology and parachuting around that had an interest to look over some of these details. Would that really be possible a 500 pound plus seat would be allowed to crash land in the countryside? Some pics show a fairly intact seat, while others show some fairly mangled parts.

Lou Chinal
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posted 06-19-2007 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have 600 jumps. I would know what to look for if some clear photos exist.

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