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Chris Dubbs
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posted 02-20-2007 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chris Dubbs   Click Here to Email Chris Dubbs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Altai asks Russian space agency to clear region of space garbage

NOVOSIBIRSK, February 19 (RIA Novosti) - The authorities of Russia's Altai Republic in southwest Siberia have asked the country's space agency to clean up the region of space garbage.

"Over half a century, there have been over 400 launches over the Altai republic. The Russian government has looked at compensation payments, but they haven't solved the problem of clearing the region of space garbage," the local government's press service said after an environmental commission session.

According to the press service, around a quarter of the Altai republic has been polluted with fallen debris from booster rockets, with more than 30 inhabited areas affected.

The press service said space garbage is one of the most urgent issues for Altai.

On February 7, the Russian government passed a resolution to establish four special economic zones for tourism and recreation. It is planned that one of the tourism and recreation zones will be established in the Altai Republic. The zones are intended to help regional development and attract investment.

art540
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posted 04-03-2007 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for art540   Click Here to Email art540     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would be fascinating to learn how many stages have impacted on land since 1957. Must be 3,000-4,000 or so.

Chris Dubbs
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posted 04-03-2007 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chris Dubbs   Click Here to Email Chris Dubbs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Colin Burgess is taking a trans-Siberian train excursion this summer. If we give him a metal detector and a map of the region, he can plot the debris field.

E2M Lem Man
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posted 04-03-2007 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2M Lem Man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Colin- bring back a few momentos, will ya?
Jim Busby

ColinBurgess
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posted 04-03-2007 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ColinBurgess   Click Here to Email ColinBurgess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Jim, Nah ... I'll probably be far too busy taking in the sweeping grandeur of the Siberian scenery over those four days!

Colin

art540
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posted 04-03-2007 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for art540   Click Here to Email art540     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just wonder if the hypergolic stages are any danger after a period of time? Proton and the ICBMs used hypergolic combinations.

Kirsten
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posted 04-04-2007 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kirsten   Click Here to Email Kirsten     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ColinBurgess:
Hi Jim, Nah ... I'll probably be far too busy taking in the sweeping grandeur of the Siberian scenery over those four days!

Colin


Wow ! The beautiful Siberian scenery !
Been there, done that. One birch forest following the other birch forest, occasionally interspersed with a birch forest.
At least, they have some railway stations inbetween, too. Hope you have a nice trip, Colin.

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Originally posted by art540:
I just wonder if the hypergolic stages are any danger after a period of time? Proton and the ICBMs used hypergolic combinations.

I remember reading a story about how the people living in the area near where the boosters drop are dying at an alarming rate. Some folks go looking for the boosters to haul back as scrap and BBQs, etc and the residual hypergols start messing up their bio-systems. There is also ground water contamination from the hypergols that is making the locals sick.

kosmonavtka
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posted 04-05-2007 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kosmonavtka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Photo essay at Slate.com from some time ago: Spaceship Junkyard.

E2M Lem Man
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posted 04-05-2007 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2M Lem Man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ColinBurgess:
Hi Jim, Nah ... I'll probably be far too busy taking in the sweeping grandeur of the Siberian scenery over those four days!
Over and over and over again, eh Colin?

It will be interesting to see what you find. I have heard that the scavengers do a pretty big business cleaning up- no matter how toxic the fuel is- poor people! A space collectible business from the remains might be a good one- for a time.

Have a blast!

Jim Busby

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