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Topic: Religious practices aboard the space station
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SkyMan1958 Member Posts: 1009 From: CA. Registered: Jan 2011
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posted 12-24-2020 08:12 PM
I was just out for a walk, and, this being Christmas Eve, I was mulling some thoughts about religion. It occurred to me, given that the ISS has now been occupied for 20+ years, that there must have been some fairly religious astronauts/cosmonauts aboard who come from religions where confession is practiced.Given that NASA has set it up so people can vote from the ISS, it seems logical that they would also have figured out some way to have confession and/or mass practiced by individuals aboard the ISS. Does anyone have any idea of how this has been set up? |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 45919 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 12-24-2020 08:29 PM
Station crew members have access to IP phones and video conferencing, with the ability, if they so choose, to connect with their religious leaders in their private time. Both Mike Hopkins and Victor Glover, who are currently aboard the space station, spoke to the media about how they planned to keep their faith while in orbit. Hopkins discussed it with the National Catholic Register in 2017 before his first expedition. Glover spoke to The Christian Chronicle prior to his current mission. Dionna [Glover] will get a special iPad that she can use to communicate with Victor and videoconference with him."One of the things I was hoping, before this pandemic, was that she would take it with her to church and just log in, and I could just sit there and watch and kind of just sit next to her in worship services," Victor said. "We'll see if they're back in regular, physical services soon or not." Either way, cyberspace will make family worship possible for an astronaut in outer space. |
Cooper95 New Member Posts: 6 From: Omaha, Nebraska,USA Registered: Mar 2021
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posted 03-22-2021 11:01 AM
I wonder how do astronauts manage to combine their work and religion? Do these two things not seem too far opposed to each other? Many religions deny the existence of space, isn't it? I was too religious in my childhood because of my parents, but the more I dived into science, the more I realized that religion has no place in my life. Perhaps, I don't understand something. |
Jonnyed Member Posts: 485 From: Dumfries, VA, USA Registered: Aug 2014
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posted 03-22-2021 05:43 PM
Umm, remember the famous Bible reading from Apollo 8? And Buzz Aldrin with Eucharist/communion on the moon?There are several other examples... |
randy Member Posts: 2410 From: West Jordan, Utah USA Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 03-22-2021 08:46 PM
Another example is Don Lind on STS-51B. He did the LDS sacrament on his flight. |
Jim Behling Member Posts: 1619 From: Cape Canaveral, FL Registered: Mar 2010
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posted 03-24-2021 04:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by Cooper95: Many religions deny the existence of space, isn't it?
Not Jewish or Christian. Belief in science and religion is possible. |
Tim Collins Member Posts: 46 From: Harrisburg, PA Registered: Mar 2007
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posted 03-25-2021 12:29 AM
Interesting thoughts by all. Wanted to share some as well.I think frequently those not actively involved in a theologically based belief system think of the term faith as referring to the process of accepting a certain set of assumptions or a worldview without any substantiating facts or basis (like the little boy who said "faith is believing in something you know isn't true"); this sometimes is called "blind faith". But such a faith generally has no place in a critically thinking "person of faith's" worldview. Rather, such an individual generally has a systemically coherent view that is empirically and experientially supported. As an engineer, this is how we always approach developing our models and concepts, whether they be to implement new hardware, or to define our thoughts around ultimate reality. Considerations such as the following two are illustrative of the many sorts of reasons one may cite as rational reasons for a broader view than simple materialist philosophies of everything. For example, one might thoughtfully consider whether it's conceivable that there's an uncaused "first cause" of everything. Causal analysis implies something in our reality had to be first (regression only goes so far, something had to be there first, eternal as it were) - either the material universe, or a timeless/matter-less Entity, and the implications of either are staggering. And since we seem to have some pretty good science implying that the universe had a beginning about 13.7 billion years ago, reasonable thoughts may be that It is something other than the universe that is eternal. Or, what is frequently referred to as the "fine tuning" of the universe. Significant evidence seems to show that the constants of physics appear to have been finely tuned to an incredible degree. For example, the ratio of electromagnetic force to gravity, expansion rate of the universe, mass density of the universe, and the Cosmological Constant are just a few of these constants. Unbelievably small deviations in the respective constants would either prevent the universe from existing now (not having matter), or be unsuitable for life, at least as we know it. There are many great intellects on both sides of the issue, so it doesn't seem to be a matter of cognitive ability or knowledge. Many space researchers and explorers are (or were) devout and sincere believers in a transcendent reality (what some may refer to as God). Two come to mind immediately: Werner von Braun and Charlie Duke. Von Braun was as ardent supporter of his religious faith. Among many quotable things he shared, was a response he made when asked about science versus faith - "They challenge science to prove the existence of God. But must we really light a candle to see the sun?" Just one of many articles he wrote on the topic of his religious thought is entitled "Why I Believe in Immortality" (it can be found in his writings). Charlie Duke later became known as a motivational speaker and having traveled and shared his faith extensively. I personally had the opportunity to speak to him about this when I met him at KSC during the 50th anniversary celebration of Alan Shepard's first flight. These are just two of many. Note that these comments are not to argue that anyone must accept a religious conviction, but merely to attempt to explain why there are those within the scientific community who believe that their religious faith is a central (and wholly rational) part of their life. |
ctoddb Member Posts: 16 From: Fontana, CA USA Registered: Mar 2007
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posted 03-25-2021 03:13 PM
I couldn't have written it better myself! Perfect summation of how rational believers embrace science and religion (and that those are not on opposite sides at all). In fact, the bible encourages humans to reason (Proverbs 1:7, I Thessalonians 5:21). |
Jonnyed Member Posts: 485 From: Dumfries, VA, USA Registered: Aug 2014
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posted 03-26-2021 05:06 PM
For the Christian faith, here is a pretty massive and exhaustive list of scientists who claimed to hold those beliefs. You'll note a lot of Nobels in that list!Some of the names under astronomy and astrophysics will be familiar to this cS space community. My personal favorite on the list is Werner Heisenberg. He's currently explaining quantum theory to the angels and saints. |
Philip Member Posts: 6088 From: Brussels, Belgium Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 03-29-2021 04:43 AM
Didn't Sultan Bin Salman Al-Saud say he prayed towards Mekka during the June 1985 space shuttle Discovery mission? |
SpaceyInMN Member Posts: 358 From: Andover, MN Registered: Dec 2013
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posted 03-29-2021 06:43 AM
Interesting topic. I can't speak to other religious practices, but as far as Catholic sacraments go, one of the requirements is that they be done in person. I had read the article about Mike Hopkins a while back. He was given a unique opportunity to take a pyx containing Communion into space with him. That's a little out of the ordinary, as Communion isn't typically self-administered. But, apparently it was worked out with his Archdiocese in some manner.Regarding confession, as with other Catholic sacraments, it must be ministered in person. There is a way, however, to receive absolution when the possibility of in person confession isn't available, with the expectation that one will go to confession at the earliest possible time. This became a more common issue during the current pandemic, as many parishes closed confession or considerably limited availability. This article explains the option better than I could, and would have been an option for Mr. Hopkins. As far as faith and science go, as pointed out by another poster, they don't have to be in conflict. Again, I can only speak to my Catholic upbringing, but as a practicing Catholic, and one who teaches catechism, I can assure you that faith and science can go hand-in-hand. The catechism class I've taught has a section on Catholic scientists, in fact, such as Georges Lemaitre, a Belgian cosmologist and Catholic priest, considered the father of the Big Bang theory, and Sister Mary Kenneth Keller, a pioneer in computer science. | |
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