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Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-21-2014 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore has proposed awarding the Nobel Peace Prize for the International Space Station, the largest international peacetime project in history.

The Russian Academy of Sciences has now offered their support of the idea, RIA Novosti reported Tuesday (Jan. 21).

“Al Gore has approached the Russian Space Agency [Roscosmos] with a proposal to nominate the ISS, meaning those who created it, for the peace prize,” academician Lev Zeleny told the presidium of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

“Roscosmos asked us to support this proposal,” said Zeleny, a vice president of the academy.

The scientist explained that the nomination would include as one body all space agencies and organizations that take part in the ISS project.

The presidium unanimously supported the proposal, stating that the project represents a perfect example of successful international cooperation.

Not everyone agrees however, the space station is eligible for the award, ITAR-TASS reported.
"I am skeptical about the Nobel Committee supporting this proposal. As far as I remember, there are certain reservations in the provision about the nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize," [Aleksandr Zheleznyakov, academician of the Russian Academy of Cosmonautics] told ltar-Tass on Tuesday. "The prize is awarded not just for any work but for activity toward settling military conflicts and ensuring security of nations," he said.

A technological project, such as the ISS, can hardly be regarded as being in the sphere of the Nobel Peace Prize, Zheleznyakov added.

"But if this proposal is made to the Nobel Committee, this will mean popularization of the idea of space studies and will emphasize the importance of the ISS, also for the public. And whether or not the project gets the prize is of secondary importance," the academician said.

Cozmosis22
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posted 01-21-2014 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cozmosis22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have to agree with the Russian professor at the Academy of Cosmonautics. This is a silly idea.

It also has the appearance of perhaps an act of shameful self-promotion by a retired politician.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-21-2014 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I understand, Gore raised the idea after being approached (or learning of) the campaign started by Space Safety Magazine.

I know that there are a number of NASA veterans and current leaders who support this idea.

SkyMan1958
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posted 01-21-2014 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the ISS works very well for a Peace prize. One of the major motivating factors behind the US supporting the ISS was to keep the ex-Soviet aerospace community from seeking employment with sketchy countries such as North Korea. It's never public relations wise as sexy to stop the buildup to war as it is to stop an actual war, but it is AT LEAST as important in the grand scheme of things.

gliderpilotuk
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posted 01-22-2014 04:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well let's face it, there aren't any deserving politicians so maybe awarding to inanimate objects is the future!

cspg
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posted 01-22-2014 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SkyMan1958:
One of the major motivating factors behind the US supporting the ISS was to keep the ex-Soviet aerospace community from seeking employment with sketchy countries such as North Korea.
So what happens when the ISS will be dumped into the ocean between 2020-2024?

The Nobel Peace Prize is a big joke.

Jim Behling
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posted 01-22-2014 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Behling   Click Here to Email Jim Behling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cspg:
So what happens when the ISS will be dumped into the ocean between 2020-2024?

Most of the ex-Soviet engineers will have been retired.

cspg
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posted 01-22-2014 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jim Behling:
Most of the ex-Soviet engineers will have been retired.
What's your point? After all the ex-Soviet engineers are dead, there are no new ones? The Kremlin decides and in view of the regimes it supports, who knows what can happen.

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posted 01-22-2014 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Headshot   Click Here to Email Headshot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gore has a good idea in principle, but missed the point.

Those who sold the idea, to their respective countries, of combining Space Station Freedom and MIR 2 into the ISS back in the early to mid-'90s should be nominated.

They are the one who had the vision that we could work together.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-22-2014 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the intent is to honor the entire team that made the space station a reality, from its early beginnings through its present day. The Prize isn't intended for the space station itself, but the people behind it.

cspg
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posted 01-22-2014 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since the Nobel Peace Prize is highly politically motivated, what would be the message conveyed if awarded to the ISS?

mode1charlie
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posted 01-22-2014 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My first reaction is it's a totally valid idea. The ISS actively promotes international cooperation, mitigates space competition, and is a major feat of technology and engineering that provides a critical platform for potentially important scientific research.

JBoe
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posted 01-22-2014 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JBoe   Click Here to Email JBoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand both sides of this issue. Would it be better to recognize the space agencies involved (NASA, ESA, JAXA, etc.) and a list all those who contributed, much like the Apollo-Boeing book that celebrates all involved in sending mankind to the moon?

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