Posts: 52233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 12-18-2017 08:40 AM
Apple has given a straight-to-series order for a new space drama from "Star Trek" and "Battlestar Galactica" veteran Ronald D. Moore, Deadline Hollywood reports.
Created and written by Moore, along with "Fargo" co-executive producers Matt Wolpert and Ben Nedivi, the untitled series explores what would have happened if the global space race had never ended.
It will be interesting to see where the series diverges from history and what catalyst they use to push the space race beyond the Apollo 11 moon landing.
mode1charlie Member
Posts: 1449 From: Honolulu, HI Registered: Sep 2010
posted 12-18-2017 02:32 PM
Great news! I very much look forward to this. Ron Moore's reboot of Battlestar Galactica was outstanding.
Tonyq Member
Posts: 220 From: UK Registered: Jul 2004
posted 02-10-2019 12:09 PM
"For All Mankind" is a ten-part drama being produced for Apple's planned new streaming service.
The show appears to be an alternative history, telling the story of what would have happened, if the space race had never ended. (The makers words, not mine!) The cast list suggests a combination of fact and fiction, with several real people from the Gemini/Apollo era, featuring as characters.
Looks interesting!
Editor's note: Threads merged.
Tonyq Member
Posts: 220 From: UK Registered: Jul 2004
posted 03-26-2019 02:38 AM
So, it appears that the major POD will be the Soviets landing a man on the moon first!
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 52233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 03-26-2019 11:09 AM
Several actors are playing real people in the series:
What if, 50 years ago, the first person to walk on the moon was not an American astronaut?
That is the premise behind "For All Mankind," the new alternate history series premiering with the Apple TV+ streaming service this fall. Developed by Ronald D. Moore, the Emmy Award-winning producer of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" and the re-imagined "Battlestar Galactica," the drama picks up where the real-life space race ended, in 1969 with the first human landing on the lunar surface.
onesmallstep Member
Posts: 1453 From: Staten Island, New York USA Registered: Nov 2007
posted 06-21-2019 12:31 PM
A little skeptical but will see this series anyway. My only beef is they should have chosen another title, given that it is shared with the excellent 1989 documentary by the late Al Reinert, with music by Brian Eno among others.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 52233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
The celebrations marking the 50th anniversary of the first moon landing this week are about a month too late. The first human to step foot onto the lunar surface — Soviet cosmonaut Alexei Leonov — did so on June 26, 1969.
Or so is the conceit and departure from real history in the Apple TV+ series "For All Mankind," premiering with the new streaming service this fall.
"For our story, we fade in on the Soviet landing on the moon and it takes place about a month or so, a few weeks prior to Apollo 11. So in our version of history, the United States is just shocked because the Soviets just kind of come out of nowhere and grab the prize right out from under our noses, at the last second," series creator Ronald D. Moore told collectSPACE in a recent call with reporters.
Tonyq Member
Posts: 220 From: UK Registered: Jul 2004
posted 07-16-2019 03:03 AM
So, the Soviet’s landed on the Moon, on my 10th Birthday! I like this whole project, even more!
And, from the latest clip, it looks like a character called 'Cobb' (but not Jerrie) and played by Sonya Walger, gets to be the first American woman in space, after all!
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 52233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 09-10-2019 02:04 PM
Apple has announced that "For All Mankind" will debut with the Apple TV+ service on Nov. 1, 2019. Subscription (for the service) is $4.99 per month or free for a year with purchase of any new iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, Mac, or Apple TV.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 52233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 09-26-2019 11:24 AM
New trailer:
James913 Member
Posts: 329 From: Houston, TX Registered: Oct 2004
posted 09-26-2019 01:40 PM
What is it with some movie/TV productions that they feel compelled to flip or otherwise muddle up the NASA or CIA emblems?
There can't be a federal law that prevents using correct government insignia in fictional productions – I see everything from painstakingly correct military uniforms to National Forest Service ranger outfits in some films.
Silly looking stuff like the flightsuit meatball in this trailer is instantly annoying and completely takes me out of the flow of the story.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 52233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 09-26-2019 02:34 PM
There are indeed federal restrictions on the use of NASA's insignia and its name (as also exists for other federal agencies' identifiers). Entertainment productions that wish to use the NASA insignia must receive permission, which includes submitting scripts for approval.
In an interview with Ronald D. Moore, I asked about the flipped insignia, thinking it might be a visual reminder of it being an alternate history. He said it was just their way of avoiding NASA's restrictions.
James913 Member
Posts: 329 From: Houston, TX Registered: Oct 2004
posted 09-26-2019 02:51 PM
Okay, but is it really enforced? All the military stuff that appears everywhere all has DoD permission? Even if so, I think they should have paid attention to detail and taken the time to gain approval, or just not use the emblem at all.
In my opinion this looks (glaringly) dumb, especially to a large segment of the target audience for something like this.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 52233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 09-26-2019 03:00 PM
I don't believe NASA pursues offenders but it is fairly common in film and TV productions to seek rights clearances on all logos, so it is somewhat self-policed.
NASA has though, rejected production requests. In general, NASA only agrees to participate in productions that reflect the agency in a positive (or at least neutral) light.
jimsz Member
Posts: 644 From: Registered: Aug 2006
posted 09-26-2019 08:26 PM
I was originally excited for this series until this new trailer dropped. It seems to be moving headfirst into contemporary political correctness and I am simply bored to death with that approach in entertainment.
astro-nut Member
Posts: 1044 From: Washington, IL Registered: Jan 2006
posted 09-30-2019 11:09 AM
Will this eventually be available on DVD or not?
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 52233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 09-30-2019 12:05 PM
Apple has not released any information as of yet about other ways to watch its Apple TV+ series, including "For All Mankind."
328KF Member
Posts: 1391 From: Registered: Apr 2008
posted 09-30-2019 05:16 PM
This looks genuinely awful.
p51 Member
Posts: 1784 From: Olympia, WA Registered: Sep 2011
posted 09-30-2019 05:42 PM
I'm sick to death of all these independent 'channels' having one program to get people to subscribe. I've never seen the new Star Trek series for the same reason I won't be seeing this (until, in each case, once I can get my hands on the DVDs through Netflix).
Anyone remember the movie that was going to come out showing Apollo 11 sitting on the Moon and unable to leave? I don't know whatever happened with that, but as much as I love alternate reality stuff, I have no interest in something like this as the reality is way more interesting (and unlikely) than anything a hack writer can come up with...
quote:Originally posted by James913: There can't be a federal law that prevents using correct government insignia in fictional productions – I see everything from painstakingly correct military uniforms to National Forest Service ranger outfits in some films.
There isn't, unless there is a copyright. For example, LAPD uniforms are consistent in TV shows but they're all wrong. The LAPD copyrighted their uniforms, patches and such and only license the same copy that isn't like the real thing. Same with the NYPD, I've been told.
But with anything DoD related, there is NO law against wearing any of it, as long as you're not trying to gain access to a military post, order servicemembers to do anything or get something for personal gain by wearing same uniform if you're not really in the military.
Nobody thought to have a copyright or trademark for the DoD but plenty of government stuff is trademarked.
chet Member
Posts: 1551 From: Beverly Hills, Calif. Registered: Nov 2000
posted 09-30-2019 05:43 PM
Not crazy about any political correctness getting interjected, but happy Apple has decided to name their series after my eBay store (!!!).
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 52233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 09-30-2019 06:41 PM
I find it strange that people are dismissing to political correctness the suggestion that the U.S., having lost the race to put the first man on the moon, would not seek another first, such as putting the first woman on the moon. Valentina Tereshkova's Vostok 6 flight remains canon to this story.
That, and the decision would fall to Nixon, who in real-life sought simple ways to leave his mark on Apollo program history. Choosing a woman would fit much more with his approach than pushing immediately onto Mars.
(And that's to say nothing of the fact that gender equality is anything but political correctness.)
quote:Originally posted by p51: I'm sick to death of all these independent 'channels' having one program to get people to subscribe.
"For All Mankind" is not the most anticipated series on Apple TV+, per the critics (that honor goes to "The Morning Show"). It is not even the only space-related series (there is also "Snoopy in Space") or sci-fi series (see "See").
(But possibly good news for you; assuming the existing space history-related "Strange Angel" or other series on CBS All Access do not appeal to you, there will soon be a second "Star Trek" series ["Picard"], so maybe you can now feel it is worth subscribing.)
quote:Originally posted by p51: There isn't, unless there is a copyright.
So begins the disclaimer at the end of each episode of "For All Mankind." The space race drama, which debuts on Friday (Nov. 1) with the new Apple TV+ streaming service, explores how NASA's Apollo program might have unfolded differently if it had been the Soviet Union — and not the United States — that had landed the first human to walk on the moon 50 years ago.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 52233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 10-30-2019 09:52 PM
From Ronald D. Moore on Twitter:
Check out our sneak peak of the "For All Mankind" opening credits below, and catch the first three episodes of the show this Friday on Apple TV!
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 52233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
When the Soviet Union beats the United States to landing the first human on the moon, it changes the course of the space race in the new Apple TV+ series "For All Mankind." But that is not the only departure from NASA history as the show begins.
Cosmonaut Alexei Leonov's unexpected touchdown on June 26, 1969, just weeks before NASA's Apollo 11 mission was scheduled to do the same, serves as the catalyst for what follows in the Ronald D. Moore alternate history. But as revealed in the series' first three episodes — which are now available to stream with the launch of Apple's video service on Friday (Nov. 1) — the "Red Moon" is met by a different NASA than the one that actually landed the first astronauts on the lunar surface 50 years ago.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 52233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 11-01-2019 12:44 PM
Photo by "For All Mankind" technical advisor Mike Okuda, via Facebook:
Jeff Branson, Ryan Kennedy, and Chris Agos play the crew of Apollo 11: Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins, and Buzz Aldrin.
Ronpur Member
Posts: 1260 From: Brandon, Fl Registered: May 2012
posted 11-03-2019 09:10 PM
The first episode had me on the edge of my seat. So many bits of our reality are still there to make it feel real, like a good alt-history drama needs. But things change and I can not wait to see were this history goes. Ron Moore at his best again.
Leonov though, that got me choked up coming so soon after his passing.
Captain Apollo Member
Posts: 360 From: UK Registered: Jun 2004
posted 11-08-2019 10:08 AM
I've seen two episodes and it is really rather good. Anyone with an interest in this era will find it good viewing.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 52233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 11-14-2019 11:10 AM
From "For All Mankind" on Twitter:
It's official. "For All Mankind" has been renewed for a second season.
Ronpur Member
Posts: 1260 From: Brandon, Fl Registered: May 2012
posted 11-22-2019 06:26 PM
I see in this weeks episode, the backwards meatball has been replaced with a worm-like logo.
dcfowler1 Member
Posts: 147 From: Eugene, OR Registered: May 2006
posted 12-15-2019 10:23 PM
Has anyone seen a resource for the fictional crew patches in "For All Mankind"?
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 52233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 03-13-2020 07:11 PM
Apple has temporarily halted the filming of the second season of "For All Mankind" in response to the coronavirus (COVID-19) precautions.
jimsz Member
Posts: 644 From: Registered: Aug 2006
posted 04-10-2020 01:17 PM
Apple is now offering "For All Mankind" for free viewing via their Apple TV+ app (Apple TV, Roku, etc).
I have to say after finally watching the series, I don't know what all the excitement was about. It gets too much into modern politics any chance it gets to preach a certain perspective and most episodes are really, really slow.
However, for those interested in seeing it but not subscribed to Apple TV+, now is the time to watch it for free.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 52233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 04-10-2020 02:37 PM
Good news about Apple making the show accessible for free.
The series' creators have said their intention from the start was to show what might have been possible if we embraced everything the nation had to offer, and not limit ourselves to the politics of the day.
In a way, that makes "For All Mankind" a fable of sort, with a good moral to convey, less we be caught on the wrong side of history.
jimsz Member
Posts: 644 From: Registered: Aug 2006
posted 04-10-2020 07:34 PM
It's not the politics of that day that is the issue. It's the politics of today that they spin that is the issue. It really does ruin what could have been a good series.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 52233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
A real astronaut leads the tour of a fictional moon base packed with references to real-life space history in a newly-released video by Apple.
Former NASA astronaut Garrett Reisman, who logged more than 90 of his 107 days in space on board the International Space Station, hosts the virtual tour of Jamestown moon base, or rather the set for such, that was featured in the first season of the alternate Apollo history drama "For All Mankind." Reisman, who also worked for and now serves as a senior advisor to SpaceX, was a technical consultant for the Apple TV+ series, which was created and written by Ronald D. Moore ("Star Trek," "Battlestar Galactica").
"Mankind has always been fascinated by the moon and traveling there was one of humanity's greatest achievements. But what if landing on the moon was just a beginning?" says Reisman as the four-and-a-half-minute video begins. "Welcome to Jamestown, 1974."
p51 Member
Posts: 1784 From: Olympia, WA Registered: Sep 2011
posted 05-06-2020 10:05 PM
quote:Originally posted by Robert Pearlman: Good news about Apple making the show accessible for free.
You still have to give them your credit card info for this "free" trial. Pass...
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 52233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 05-06-2020 10:46 PM
From what I understand, if you already have an Apple ID and install the Apple TV app, there is no credit card required.
If you do not have an Apple ID, a credit card is required to verify your identity. Either way, you are not charged and you do not need to sign up for a subscription.
perineau Member
Posts: 403 From: FRANCE Registered: Jul 2007
posted 05-08-2020 08:58 AM
A real astronaut leads the tour of a fictional moon base packed with references to real-life space history in a newly-released video by Apple.
Regarding the video: "You don't come here for the food" — that's okay, I'm ready to go!
posted 12-18-2017 08:40 AM
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